any help for banshee owners

[corruptedcobalt]

under 2d mode, the banshee works fine. but under 3dfx glide, it locks
up (after playing it for 20-30 minutes)!
is there a way to play it under 3dfx glide without it crashing?
please help me!

[Canis Lupus]

What brand of video card are you using? And have you installed the latest drivers for it?

Dunno how well D2 will work under that old video card, but let us know which brand it is and maybe we can help you scrounge up some drivers for it...

[corruptedcobalt]

i have 'Creative 3D Blaster Banshee'
i have installed the latest drivers from 3dfx site
yeah, but it locks up

[Canis Lupus]

Hmmm, don't really know if the latest drivers that 3dfx had will work well with with DirectX 7 or 8, especially considering how old the Banshee is ...

Anyway, make sure you have at least DirectX7 installed on your computer (I assume you're running Win98) ... stick around for more suggestions from the other techies here...

[corruptedcobalt]

i have the latest direct x already...everything
has been updated on my computer
i've even tried using gl setup but that has no use

[Ookami]

I've got a Diamond Monster Fusion card (Banshee chip) and I'm having it give me a grTexDownload MipMap: mipmap cannot span 2mbyte boundry error, and then a second error: grTexdownload level portal mipmap:minlevel mipmap cannot span 2 mbyte boundry, this happen after I walk about 5 steps after I am in a game.

I have upgraded the drivers, I have Direct X 8.0

[TotalRecall]

Under my GeForce 2 properties, there's a "Use up to X memory for textures..." property. See if you can find something like that Ookami.

[Ookami]

I have the limit texture memory to 2 mb box checkd but it still gives me the same error

[Canis Lupus]

To Banshee owners: I guess it would be high-time to try upgrading your video card... good video cards are now available dirt-cheap, and support for them would be current, thus saving you the hassle of trying to hunt for drivers on an obsolete/discontinued product...

[Ookami]

I had one :( emphasis on had :P and well money is a problem for me oh well just save what I got and see what happenes, I had some good times with my MAXX card and the thing just stopped working :\ I guess I'm content with what I got for the moment but yes an upgrade is a good idea

[corruptedcobalt]

yeah, yeah, we know...

er, 2 more questions(i dont have money to upgrade JUST yet):
these are still banshee questions(i have creative 3d blaster)

* is there an option to disable full-screen anti-aliasing?
if yes, can you tell me how?

* is there a way to play d2 in direct 3d?
for me, i can only choose directdraw (2d) and 3dfx glide

[corruptedcobalt]

bump...

er, will someone answer my questions, please...

[Canis Lupus]

Okay, here are some things you may want to consider.

is there an option to disable full-screen anti-aliasing?
if yes, can you tell me how? Honestly, I don't know, since I don't have a Banshee card. But you may want to check your Advanced Display Settings by right-clicking on the desktop, choose Properties, then the Settings tab, and the Advanced button. See if there is a tab there that relates to your Banshee card, and if it has an Additional Properties button, click on it and find a setting there that disables the FSAA.

Sometimes the settings can be found on the autoexec.bat file in your root directory.

Other than that, I believe only a Banshee owner can really tell you how it can be disabled (if it's even possible). It's just too old a video card...

is there a way to play d2 in direct 3d?
for me, i can only choose directdraw (2d) and 3dfx glideGiven the nature of an old video card like Banshee, its native drivers probably don't support the DirectX version that Diablo II is running. It probably does not support the Direct3D version that Diablo II needs, which is why it is not offered as an option.



Hope these answers are good enough for ya, and post back on your progress...

[corruptedcobalt]

Honestly, I don't know, since I don't have a Banshee card. But you may want to check your Advanced Display Settings by right-clicking on the desktop, choose Properties, then the Settings tab, and the Advanced button. See if there is a tab there that relates to your Banshee card, and if it has an Additional Properties button, click on it and find a setting there that disables the FSAA.

Actually, i can't find these stuff...
i have even used a thing that gives you more options(banshee control thing)

Heres a problem i have found, this is my d2xxx.txt(it list problems)
20:08:55.540 Enumerating display device
20:08:55.540 Creating running dialog
20:08:56.520 Running dialog displayed, continuing ...
20:08:57.570 Ready to detect operating system
20:08:57.570 Detecting Operating System and DirectX...
20:08:57.570 osDetect()
20:08:57.570 Valid version of DirectX found. (4.8.0.400)
20:08:57.570 ...Done Detecting Operating System and DirectX: Success
20:08:57.570 OSDetect passed: Registering window class...
20:08:57.570 ... Done Registering window class
20:08:57.570 DDrawDetect...
20:08:58.560 Detecting boards which support DirectDraw...
20:08:59.760 Checking capabilities of 3dfx Voodoo Banshee...
20:09:00.970 Supports 32 bit cutscenes.
20:09:00.970 Video Memory Total= 13.707 MB, Free= 13.707 MB
20:09:00.970 Passed requirements for Diablo II.
20:09:01.250 Destroyed DDraw window.
20:09:03.280 Direct3DDetect...
20:09:04.270 Detecting boards which support Direct3D...
20:09:04.540 Checking capabilities of 3dfx Voodoo Banshee...
20:09:04.540 3dfx Voodoo Banshee is based on a 3Dfx chipset and has limited texturing capabilities under Direct3D.
20:09:04.540 Destroyed D3D window.
20:09:04.540 Found no valid Direct3D devices to use!
20:09:06.580 GlideDetect...
20:09:07.560 Detecting boards which support Glide...
20:09:07.840 Hardware: Voodoo Banshee (tm)
20:09:07.840 Vendor: 3dfx Interactive
20:09:07.840 Renderer: Glide
20:09:07.840 Version: 3.10.00.0518
20:09:08.170 TMU Count= 1
20:09:08.170 Total Texture Memory= 2.00
20:09:08.170 Doesn't have enough video memory (3.5 MB) to adequately run Diablo II!

20:09:08.390 Destroyed bad Glide window.
20:09:11.350 Done with Detection phase...
20:09:11.350 Creating final dialog ...
20:09:11.350 Recommending ddraw0 in final dialog.
20:09:11.350 Displaying info message in final dialog.
20:09:11.350 Show window in final dialog.


so, how do i increase my "limited texturing capabilities" or increase my "Total Texture Memory"???????

[Canis Lupus]

As I said, you have an OLD video card ... there is almost little that can be done about 3D acceleration, especially when the error log clearly says it cannot meet the requirements imposed by D2.

Check your D2 box and you will see that your card may not meet the requirements needed to run 3D acceleration:

From Blizzard's Diablo II (http://www.blizzard.com/diablo2/) page:

Optional 3D Acceleration

Supports Glide™ and Direct 3D™ compatible video cards with at least 8MB of video RAM. Direct 3D™ requires 64 MB of system RAM


As far as I know, the Voodoo Banshee came out with support for 4, 8 and 16MB flavors ... which one do you have?

Also, limited texturing capabilities are mostly on the hardware level, which means no amount of tweaking on the software level may work - it's like trying to make a bicycle run like a motorbike...

Voodoo Banshee is as dead on the water as the company that made it. I would STRONGLY suggest upgrading your video card if you want to play today's 3D-enabled games, otherwise you would just have to settle with DirectDraw 2D...

[corruptedcobalt]

my banshee is 16mb and i have 128 ram...i thought this met the requirements

[Canis Lupus]

I guess the Voodoo Banshee drivers are not optimized for Diablo II ... Since you are not so willing to upgrade your video card at this time, I would have to suggest you stay on DirectDraw 2D until the time comes when you are ready to start upgrading...

That's my recommendation: UPGRADE. Someone else may have some suggestions, so stick around...

[Homer]

Sups :)

Banshee blows! The box says "Voodoo" Banshee, but the chipset is not even Voodoo related (or, atleast mine wasn't)

In anycase, I got mine working, by installing the Voodoo Drivers rather than the Banshee drivers, and by doing that, I was able to run it in 3D. However, loading time between wp's was hell, and I often ended up dead.

Try this, and if it doesn't work, then just reinstall your Banshee drivers :(

And when you get really fed up, do what i did, and buy a new card ;P Preferably, a REAL Voodoo ;) or Diamond.

If you have more questions, just ask. I replaced my Banshee about 3 months ago, so I kinda forget exactly WHAT i did, but... I'm sure I can remember if you guys still need help...

GL :)

Homer.

[Homer]

Oh yeah, the colors (under voodoo drivers) were really, um... how can i say it.... exagerated? might wanna turn down the gamma or something.

Homer.

[corruptedcobalt]

i'll try that homer...
BUT, which voodoo drivers did you install?
could you be more specific, please?

[Homer]

Crap.

Which Voodoo chip is supposed to be in the Banshee? Was it Voodoo 1 or Voodoo 2? I think it was 1, but i can't remember... Read the box, or manuel, and see which one it was. and then dl the corresponding driver.

Homer.

[Chako]

The banshee was a stand alone graphics card. It was not a voodoo 1 or 2, but a completely different chip....

You can find almost any hardware driver out there at this location bellow. However, there is one caveat. You must log in with a password. In other words, you have to join up..but it is free.

http://www.software.drivers.com/

Hope this helps you in finding those hard to get drivers for your video card.

[Homer]

Hmm... maybe the Banshee card, but the Voodoo Banshee card was Voodoo related....

[corruptedcobalt]

eh, i dont understand what you people are talking about anymore...

[Homer]

Sorry.

Creative came out with a Banshee Card, and a Voodoo Banshee Card.

I had the Voodoo Banshee, which had the Voodoo 1 (I think) chipset in it. It was either Voodoo 1, or 2, but i'm sure it's 1. Anyways, When i used the Voodoo 1 drivers on my Voodoo Banshee, i was able to play D2 under 3D mode. I don't know what more to say...

Homer.

[Chako]

Generally the Banshee was called the Voodoo Banshee because it tied it with the Voodoo products (because Voodoo was a very big name at one time and they were very sensitive about marketing). As for a Banshee and a Voodoo Banshee, well...they are the same product, and yes, it is a Voodoo created chip called the Voodoo Banshee chip (so much for creativity :)) Do you have a primary video card with your Voodoo Banshe, or is it the only graphics card you have in there. If it is the only one, then you have a plain old Banshee...and it would be time to throw that junk away and ante up to a better card. If it is a secondary video card (not your primary), then you don't have a banshee but a Voodoo 1 or 2.

Anyways, if you go here (http://www.americas.creative.com/support/welcome.asp?RD=download) , you will find the downloadable drivers for all Creative products. Just select "video products", then select "3D Graphics", and look at the list generated...you will note only the 3D Blaster banshee is listed.

[Homer]

Your safest bet, is to go with Chako, and use the damn sledgehammer ;)

Homer

[Ookami]

ok I was having problems geting d2 to run with my old diamond card so I wnet out after I got the money and got a new gigabyte geforce2mx card and it works great I think the best fix here might be unfortunatly a new card like Canus said

[corruptedcobalt]

heh, you guys really think so?
HAH! actually i have fixed my problem
it turns out i had the wrong drivers, instead of having 3d blaster banshee, i had voodoo banshee drivers. now it says
19:25:57.000 Hardware: Voodoo Banshee
19:25:57.000 Vendor: 3Dfx Interactive
19:25:57.000 Renderer: Glide
19:25:57.000 Version: 3.10.00.0350
19:25:57.280 TMU Count= 1
19:25:57.280 Total Texture Memory= 13.99
19:25:57.390 Passed requirements for Diablo II.
19:25:57.440 Destroyed Glide window.
19:25:57.440 Glide: Sufficient Texture memory, recommended.

YEAH!!!

but one more question before your 'quest' to help me ends.
i have 3 options:
force mipmapping dithering
limit texture memory to 2mb
force triple buffering

now, which should i tick so d2 wont crash, i heard this is a voodoo 2 problem also, but i couldnt find that one.