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Old 07-24-2008, 03:19 PM   #1 (permalink)

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DDR2 or 3 ?

hello
I need a new VGA for my pc, the old one died.

i have the choice between a 1g DDR2 and a 512 DDR3.
ill get u the model numbers and link as soon as possible.

for the some reason the 1gb is almost twice the price.

so is DDR3 better than DDR2 even if the DDR2 comes with 1gh speed?


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Old 07-24-2008, 04:41 PM   #2 (permalink)

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Re: DDR2 or 3 ?

Wrong forum.

1 GB of DDR2 > 512 MB of DDR3

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Old 07-24-2008, 04:48 PM   #3 (permalink)

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Re: DDR2 or 3 ?

Hang on a second... if you mean you're getting a new Video Card, then you mean GDDR2 and GDDR3, in which case GDDR3 > GDDR2 by a lot, no matter how much difference. But you can't judge a video card simply by the amount of memory it has. You have to really look into the video card and see how it performs. Tell us your budget and what kind of slot your Motherboard has (AGP or PCI-E) and we can tell you what kind of VGA options you have.

However, if you're talking about just RAM/Memory for your computer, then you want 1 GB of DDR2 over 512 GB of DDR3. But then again, the kind of memory your PC can have depends on your motherboard, so you can't choose one or the other, you have to pick the one that your motherboard supports.

And yes, this belongs more in the Hardware forum than in PC gaming forum, but you were close.

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Old 07-24-2008, 04:58 PM   #4 (permalink)

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Re: DDR2 or 3 ?

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Hang on a second... if you mean you're getting a new Video Card, then you mean GDDR2 and GDDR3, in which case GDDR3 > GDDR2 by a lot, no matter how much difference. But you can't judge a video card simply by the amount of memory it has. You have to really look into the video card and see how it performs. Tell us your budget and what kind of slot your Motherboard has (AGP or PCI-E) and we can tell you what kind of VGA options you have.

However, if you're talking about just RAM/Memory for your computer, then you want 1 GB of DDR2 over 512 GB of DDR3. But then again, the kind of memory your PC can have depends on your motherboard, so you can't choose one or the other, you have to pick the one that your motherboard supports.

And yes, this belongs more in the Hardware forum than in PC gaming forum, but you were close.
Sorry about posting in the wrong section.

yes it's VGA memory im talking about so yes its GDDR2 and GDDR3.

So should I get the 512MB GDDR3 instead of 1GB GDDR2 VGA ?

the 512 is more expensive. I think its the XFX 8600 GTS or GTX or GT smthg, comes in a xshaped box.

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Old 07-24-2008, 05:54 PM   #5 (permalink)

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Re: DDR2 or 3 ?

Haha he said video card.

RTFA right?

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Old 07-24-2008, 10:03 PM   #6 (permalink)

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Re: DDR2 or 3 ?

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Sorry about posting in the wrong section.

yes it's VGA memory im talking about so yes its GDDR2 and GDDR3.

So should I get the 512MB GDDR3 instead of 1GB GDDR2 VGA ?

the 512 is more expensive. I think its the XFX 8600 GTS or GTX or GT smthg, comes in a xshaped box.
8600GT is a piece of crap if you plan to game well. Just tell me how much you want to spend on a card and I'll show you some good cards for the money ok?

Also, do you mind buying from an online retailer? Because that's where you'll get the best deals.

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Old 07-25-2008, 01:42 AM   #7 (permalink)

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Re: DDR2 or 3 ?

my budget is around 150$...

i'm not a HEAVY gamer, but still i'd love to have a card that could run Crysis and games like that with no problem

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Old 07-25-2008, 06:12 AM   #8 (permalink)

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Re: DDR2 or 3 ?

Hmmm... I think I have a few options for you. One second.

Ok, here's some good stuff. All prices listed are BEFORE rebates (if any). Also, don't really base the power of a card on Crysis alone, especially with the price range you're looking at. While the cards can play Crysis no problem, you'll have a hard time cranking up the details and AA/AF without getting some poor framerates, especially at resolutions above 1280x1024.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814130318
- GeForce 8800GT. $149.99 ($20 mail-in rebate). Amazing performance for the price. Gives you about 10 - 20% less the performance of the old, yet respected 8800GTX. It'll play most anything you can throw at it, but don't expect miracles.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814130359
- GeForce 8800GT. $149.99 ($20 mail-in rebate). Same as above, but with dual-slot cooling, so it should stay cooler and probably be a little quieter.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814261002
- GeForce 9600GT. $114.99 ($20 mail-in rebate). Slightly less powerful than the 8800GT and another great bang-for-buck performer. This one comes with some nice extra stuff and a third party cooler, so it should be quiet and cold.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814102747
- Radeon HD 4850. $174.99 ($20 mail-in rebate). The best card in the $100 - $200 price range, period. There's been a ton of buzz about the new HD 4xxx series from ATi and for good reason. This card not only performs as good as the 9800GTX/8800GTX/8800 Ultra (if not sometimes better), but it also allows you to crank up those AA and AF settings usually for free. Yes, that's right, you can have AA and AF practically for no performance hit. Seriously, if you can work up the money for this card, it's very worth it.

By the way, I just noticed something. Your computer looks a tad old. Do you know off-hand if the Motherboard has a PCI-E slot? Because your old card looks like it might have gone into an AGP slot. Also that processor is old and slow by today's standards.

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Old 07-25-2008, 10:18 AM   #9 (permalink)

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Re: DDR2 or 3 ?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mathias View Post
Hmmm... I think I have a few options for you. One second.

Ok, here's some good stuff. All prices listed are BEFORE rebates (if any). Also, don't really base the power of a card on Crysis alone, especially with the price range you're looking at. While the cards can play Crysis no problem, you'll have a hard time cranking up the details and AA/AF without getting some poor framerates, especially at resolutions above 1280x1024.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814130318
- GeForce 8800GT. $149.99 ($20 mail-in rebate). Amazing performance for the price. Gives you about 10 - 20% less the performance of the old, yet respected 8800GTX. It'll play most anything you can throw at it, but don't expect miracles.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814130359
- GeForce 8800GT. $149.99 ($20 mail-in rebate). Same as above, but with dual-slot cooling, so it should stay cooler and probably be a little quieter.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814261002
- GeForce 9600GT. $114.99 ($20 mail-in rebate). Slightly less powerful than the 8800GT and another great bang-for-buck performer. This one comes with some nice extra stuff and a third party cooler, so it should be quiet and cold.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814102747
- Radeon HD 4850. $174.99 ($20 mail-in rebate). The best card in the $100 - $200 price range, period. There's been a ton of buzz about the new HD 4xxx series from ATi and for good reason. This card not only performs as good as the 9800GTX/8800GTX/8800 Ultra (if not sometimes better), but it also allows you to crank up those AA and AF settings usually for free. Yes, that's right, you can have AA and AF practically for no performance hit. Seriously, if you can work up the money for this card, it's very worth it.

By the way, I just noticed something. Your computer looks a tad old. Do you know off-hand if the Motherboard has a PCI-E slot? Because your old card looks like it might have gone into an AGP slot. Also that processor is old and slow by today's standards.
Thanks for your help.
I've had really bad experience with evga, i had to change my card twice and now its totally dead. another user in this forum had the same problem with the same card and had the change it as well. I don't know if I can trust them again.

You're right my PC is a bit old, I got it 2 years ago or so, but it's fine, I mean I'm not a heavy gamer so it's fine for now, I just want a VGA that could still last a couple of years or at least till I change or upgrade my machine.

So a 512MB with DDR3 in generally faster and better than a 1GB with DDR2 card , is that correct ?

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Old 07-25-2008, 11:26 AM   #10 (permalink)

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Re: DDR2 or 3 ?

That's correct. DDR2 is old memory for VGAs. So chances are, if you see DDR2 on a VGA card, it's either a very old card or they're trying to save a lot of money on a current, very low powered card, so it's generally a bad choice for gaming.

Also you should make sure that your motherboard can take the kind of card you buy. I can't tell right away if your motherboard takes PCI-E or AGP slot graphics cards so make sure you find that out before you buy, it will change your options for cards by a lot. In fact, ATi is the only one still making AGP versions of their cards last I checked. Nvidia stopped after the GeForce 7 series I think.

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Old 07-25-2008, 11:46 AM   #11 (permalink)

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Re: DDR2 or 3 ?

The board he has listed in his sig has 3 PCI-E x1 slots and 1 PCE-E x16 slot.

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Old 07-25-2008, 11:47 AM   #12 (permalink)

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Re: DDR2 or 3 ?

Ok, then any of the cards I listed will do you just fine. And you don't have to buy EVGA, I just happened to show them to you because they were the best balance of good ratings and cheap price. If the price of those cards (wherever you look) deviates from those prices I showed you by more than $30, I'd say you're getting ripped off unless they're packing in extras or are a reputable company, so be careful.

Also here's some reputable companies to look out for.
XFX
BFG
Palit
Sapphire
VisionTek
LeadTek
Gainward

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Old 07-26-2008, 07:18 PM   #13 (permalink)

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Re: DDR2 or 3 ?

I have a BFG and am happy with it. I also had a EVGA and had great luck with it too. Before that I can't even remember, haha. I think I had a Sapphire.

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Old 07-29-2008, 09:06 AM   #14 (permalink)

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Wink Re: DDR2 or 3 ?

Or DDR5

http://www.ebuyer.com/product/147712

Scarily powerful I think the description is.

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