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September 11?
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Posted by: Canis Lupus
Unless you lived under a rock since September 10, 2001, you know what this poll's about...
Posted by: nocode
even though i voted for it's just another wednesday, i feel we are all affected by it. it has affected the economy in a major way!
Posted by: Nfested
I still remember it, but I hate that almost everywhere there are 9/11 ads everywhere. I don't like receiving Instant Messages saying "if you care about 9/11 send this to 11 people"!.
Posted by: -EG-raynor
they have made it really annoying, they show replays of the crashes, and dont stop, i wouldnt mind a show about it on the day it occured, but showing it over, and over etc. is just rediculous. Nobody wants to relive that day
Posted by: Null Actor
So where can I buy one year anniversary pins, hats, commemorative flags, the home video, and the movie, coming soon to a theater near you?
Posted by: redwench
nova, probably somewhere in NY all those are on sale. 
im sick of hearing about it. i was sick of hearing about it on sept 12, actually. it hasnt endeared itself to me since. im going to hide under a rock on sept 11.
Posted by: The_Turks(ff7)
its just another wednesday, im still going to school, still going to get homework probably...i wont watch tv that day cuz EVERY channel will have stuff about it. except for like cartoon network or boomerang, which i dont watch anyways...
Posted by: Xtren
I voted that it's just another Wednesday, but it really doesn't make much of a difference for us here in Canada, and that's why. I'm still affected by the events that took place a year ago, it was really awful. However I think everyone should get over it now, because hopefully nothing like that is going to happen for a long time.
Posted by: Tweaker
September 11 2001, a day America will never forget.
Posted by: redwench
oh, well forget it eventually, as it should be.
Posted by: PhantomGamer
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Originally posted by Tweaker
September 11 2001, a day America will never forget.
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yeah i agree I am still deeply affected by it. Its just everytime i see the building smoken on the news it makes me feel bad
Posted by: Tweaker
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Originally posted by redwench
oh, well forget it eventually, as it should be.
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Maybe in mind but not heart.
Posted by: PhantomGamer
I hate newgrounds.com after 9/11 they had this video that some people thought were funny. But it was you saw the people on the floor were the plane crashed in one of the tours, and it showed some other stuff. It was really stupid and they didn't give there respect to the US
Posted by: ZeRo_MaXwInG
It's been almost a year now and it's time to put it behind us.
Posted by: PhantomGamer
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Originally posted by ZeRo_MaXwInG
It's been almost a year now and it's time to put it behind us.
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For some people its easy for others its not so easy
Posted by: ZeRo_MaXwInG
True, but it's ideal for the country and everyone in general. But as we all know, the ideal thing to do is never done...
Posted by: Shark180
September 11th is a day that ppl should remember i saw both towers fall on T.V about 50 times and how many ppl were killed? almost 10,000! So you can't im sick of hearing about it and if any one says its just another day to me then you should be imprisoned for life for being a trader to this country.My Cousin is Bin Laden country right now.
Posted by: Spider
blahblahblah sick of hearing about it
but I can't help but be suckered into hearing about it because it's the only way to keep up with current/international events anymore. Everything has to do with it, bleh.
Posted by: Xtren
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Originally posted by PhantomGamer
For some people its easy for others its not so easy
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I can see how something like this would be very difficult to try to get over for people who actually had a friend or family member who died in the attacks. However, for us other people who only watched it on TV when it happened, we should be able to move on a bit quicker, and appreciate the fact that we are lucky enough not to have something like this happen to us.
Posted by: nocode
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Originally posted by Shark180
September 11th is a day that ppl should remember i saw both towers fall on T.V about 50 times and how many ppl were killed? almost 10,000! So you can't im sick of hearing about it and if any one says its just another day to me then you should be imprisoned for life for being a trader to this country.My Cousin is Bin Laden country right now.
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that's a pretty bold post for it to be your 1st! how can everyone be expected to feel the same way about this as you?.....the media has brain washed people into thinking like that! "think for yourself!....question authority!"
Posted by: Xtren
Well Shark to look on the bright side it was around 5000 people that died, which is still a hell of a lot of course. I can see how the fact that you have a cousin in Bin Laden country might make you feel really bad about the whole ordeal moreso. However, as Nocode said, we don't all feel the same way as you do. Sure we're sorry that this has happened, but the majority of people will like to get over this sort of thing, and you can't think any lesser of them for it.
Posted by: taco_fox
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Originally posted by nocode
"think for yourself!....question authority!"
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Made me think of this
Posted by: Shalome
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Originally posted by Shark180
September 11th is a day that ppl should remember i saw both towers fall on T.V about 50 times and how many ppl were killed? almost 10,000!
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Actually, less than 3000 people died. Not that it makes it any less of a horrible thing. (note, from here on out, this post is not directed at Shark180, and the "you" is metaphorical) Did you know any of them? No? Then how can you honestly say you care? People die every day. This was a mass tragedy, a horrible senseless act of violence, but hell, 3000 people in Israel could die tomorrow and no one would give a shit. Or France. Or Poland. Or Russia. How many people here would shed a tear? Anyone know how many people in sub-Saharan Africa die every day of AIDS because their governments won't let medical supplies or condoms or educational materials into the country? No? Hundreds. Every day. Does it bother you?
And yes, I certainly can say I'm sick of hearing about it. It's my feeling and my thoughts, and I'm not ashamed of it. I hear stupid people who never did a damn thing for their country in their entire lives (not even voting) plastering their cars with American flags and buying flag t-shirts and tablecloths and toothbrushes and toilet paper, etc, talking about the "war on terrorism" when they can't even find Afghanistan or Iraq on a map and couldn't tell you a damn thing about the politics involved.
I'm sick of the media telling me how sad and terrified I should be, how grief-stricken all good Americans are. I'm sick of being told how I should feel. I'm sick of watching people around me get all sad and misty-eyed when some sappy soft-focus "tribute" with semi-stirring music in the background comes on TV. They died. It's over. Life goes on.
Yes, yes, America's sense of border security was shattered, yes yes, we're all terrified of the terrorist with the anthrax that the media tells us is lurking around your local hang-out, etc. Isn't it a bitch to live like most of the world does? Man, I'm more worried about getting carjacked in East St. Louis than I am of a repeat of Sept. 11.
I'm sick of hearing about the righteous rage and revenge and pre-emptive strikes we are, will be, or "should be" taking against people in other countries.
I'm sick of hearing morons declare that the best thing to do would be to "turn the middle east into a radioactive sheet of glass." I work on a military base; I hear this option all the damn time.
I'm sick of seeing reminders. It's not like anyone can forget. Coffee mugs and tshirts and bumper stickers and special coins from the Danbury Mint... it's a f***ing marketing scheme, not honest emotion. I don't want to have to pay for trinkets to prove I care.
If you wanna cry on Sept. 11, do it. If you wanna get involved in politics and try to make a difference or just understand, DO IT. If you want to help people in your community because life is short, DO IT!! Don't sit in front of your television waiting for NBC or CBS or ABC or any emotionally overwrought series of images to "heal the nation's spirit."
I'm sick of the sentimentalism, I'm sick of the rage, I'm sick of the uncertainty, I'm sick of the fear, I'm sick of the phrase "nine-eleven."
On Sept. 11, I'll be sitting on a beach in Florida. I'll be damned if I even give the date one thought.
It's just another day.
Posted by: nocode
shalome......you can put things into words so well to make such a valid point!!
Posted by: Shalome
And one more thing (and this IS pointed at Shark180), just because I say "it's just another day" does not make me a traitor to my country. It makes me honest. I work every day protecting the US Global Transportation Command on a military base. I vote. I write many, many letters to politicians. I love my country, and what I love most are my rights.
Including the right to think, feel, and say whatever I want. It makes me less of a "traitor" than those who would willingly give up the rights this nation's founders paid for in blood.
(Oh, and thanks, nocode.)
Posted by: Shark180
sry for the rude responce its just that i can't belive ppl would say i don't give a **** about this day and sry for sying 10,000 its more like 3,000 to 4,000 ppl died that day.
Posted by: Tweaker
This is just a poll not a rant-rave thread. Bottom line if you want to remember the victims you have that right! If you are sick of it then fine, let it go! No one has the right to put down another person for the way they feel! It was a tragedy and if someone in your family was one of those that was killed you may feel differently. Yes we should move on, but never forget! This is a wake up call to all people that the world is a scary place! No safe haven anywhere.
Posted by: Shark180
Thank you Tweaker
Posted by: Shalome
Yes, thank you, Tweaker.
And I want everyone to know.. I'm not attacking anyone. I'm not attacking anyone's beliefs. My whole point was that everyone can, does, and SHOULD feel exactly what and how they feel, and nothing more or less.
Posted by: Shark180
I can tell this is not a place for me i love doing tech support for blizzard in the open tech support channel i gusse i stay in there
Posted by: Nfested
Shark, you've only had a cursory view of this place if you've only posted 4 times on this forum. Perhaps you should stay a little longer and maybe you'll change your mind?
I now care about 9/11 as much as I cared about Pearl Harbor. Lots of people died, but its in the past now.
Posted by: 360
Hey,september 11th I still find it something we should remember its the 3,000 ppl that died i think we should remember not every thing that happened that day the planes the 911 calls just all the ppl that died
360
Posted by: Canis Lupus
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Originally posted by Shark180
I can tell this is not a place for me i love doing tech support for blizzard in the open tech support channel i gusse i stay in there
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you actually think there are more worthwhile discussions in THAT channel than in here? now that's a frightening thought...
Oh, and 360, you don't have to re-register just to state the same opinion ... you can keep using your shark180 account ... we know it's still you anyway...
Posted by: ZeRo_MaXwInG
But this thread isn't tech support, its where we talk about current events, get some opinions on something, or just talk. If the general/off topic stuff here on OTS is not to your flavour than don't come here  and help people in the tech support forums. OTS is a great community and I think you would like it here, if you would stay here for a bit longer and stay away from threads where you think you might not want to be in.If you wanted to go back to the Bnet channel, no one is stopping you.
Posted by: ZeRo_MaXwInG
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Originally posted by Canis Lupus
you actually think there are more worthwhile discussions in THAT channel than in here? now that's a frightening thought...
Oh, and 360, you don't have to re-register just to state the same opinion ... you can keep using your shark180 account ... we know it's still you anyway...
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lol, busted...
Posted by: 360
stats on shark180:he was in the clan shark for ever. shark did some tech support but they manily made fun of users that didn't know the answers to questions i reported him like a trillion times for harassment and yet blizzard did nothing. After his clan broke up he begged me to join the clan that i'm in (clan blizzard) but i kicked him out for harassing B-net users so now he's just trying to find a spot to chill and make fun of ppl
Posted by: Canis Lupus
that still doesn't explain why you and him are using the same IP address...
in any case, just drop it and get back on topic, please...
Posted by: Shark180
Look im sry for bitching about september 11th,Im sry for making fun of other opions.Third im sry i logged on as a nother user trying to trick you...even though that didn't work.Do you think we can start this hole mess over agian? I have always been an outcast i have no friends at school no friend on B-net I have 2 parents that don't give a rats ass about thats why im always so mad september 11th i had no one to talk to about what was happened that day and im sry to all the ppl in here that i made mad!!!   =my life. some times i think why not kill my self won't ppl be happier with out me?
Posted by: ZeRo_MaXwInG
Don't think that way. Just take your time here and try not to trick us anymore, especially not Laggy, nothing slips by him.
Posted by: redwench
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Originally posted by Tweaker
This is a wake up call to all people that the world is a scary place! No safe haven anywhere.
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only an idiot or a child thought there was a safe haven from terrorism. the rest of the world has been dealing with this shit for decades, at the very least. welcome to the real world.
Posted by: Shark180
My parents made me talk to Dr.Laura when i said i'll kill my self to make the world better and i relized the she was a bit of a quack,sry to say that.
Posted by: redwench
she does have her moments. 
Posted by: AK47
I still enjoy watching the planes fly into the buildings. Not because I love death, but seeing that kind of thing really happen is interesting.
Posted by: TotalRecall
I'm sick of it, and i'm sick of its zealous repercussions.
The more I think about it, the more I can see how Bush has used this to perfection. Mounting patriotism, holding a weapons test in Afganistan, and now the threat of war with Iraq.
That day has alienated the U.S. from the world. Those 4,000 won't seem like so much if Bush attempts such an operation in the Middle East....expect hundreds of thousands of deaths.
Maybe i'm crazy.
Posted by: Null Actor
As someone on the outside looking in, I find it hilarious how 9/11 has been turned in to a riding crop to spur the population in any direction the government wants.
Posted by: redwench
after all, if you use drugs, you support terrorists.
Posted by: PhantomGamer
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Originally posted by Shark180
September 11th is a day that ppl should remember i saw both towers fall on T.V about 50 times and how many ppl were killed? almost 10,000! So you can't im sick of hearing about it and if any one says its just another day to me then you should be imprisoned for life for being a trader to this country.My Cousin is Bin Laden country right now.
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I agree with you, and also my cousin was over there giving us our freedom
Posted by: Null Actor
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Originally posted by PhantomGamer
my cousin was over there giving us our freedom
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Posted by: Xtren
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Originally posted by AK47
I still enjoy watching the planes fly into the buildings. Not because I love death, but seeing that kind of thing really happen is interesting.
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I don't agree with your opinion of planes flying into buildings. However every time I watch the attacks on TV it's still hard for me to imagine that it was real, I swear you could have seen the exact same scene in a movie.
Posted by: PhantomGamer
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Originally posted by Xtren
I don't agree with your opinion of planes flying into buildings. However every time I watch the attacks on TV it's still hard for me to imagine that it was real, I swear you could have seen the exact same scene in a movie.
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I agree how can u enjoy watching those planes hit one of the biggest buildings in the world, like Xtren said its just like a scene in a movie
Posted by: Canis Lupus
and I bet you people don't ever watch movies anymore ... how about the one where helicopters smash into buildings in action movies? how about planes that roll by in a ball of flame along the runway? how about cars that crash into each other to achieve a twenty-car pile-up?
I mean, even the kids you see playing with cars, trucks or planes always crash them into each other, or into something ... it's an instinct to be in awe of seeing something big crash into something similarly big...
So don't try to tell me that planes crashing into buildings is something new and unthought-of ... it IS interesting to see, if you don't feel any other emotion other than awe.
The same way you don't want people to castigate you for feeling too much for the incident, don't try to castigate people who don't feel anything for it...
I voted indifferent ... coz the best way for me to understand this event is to feel nothing...
Posted by: Bobaroo
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Originally posted by Canis Lupus
I voted indifferent ... coz the best way for me to understand this event is to feel nothing...
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Very true.
My school though is doing this whole big thing with the band and choir. I think I have to sing or something.
Posted by: redwench
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Originally posted by PhantomGamer
like Xtren said its just like a scene in a movie
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true lies, just to name one. i presume you will boycott that movie, and all others that show a plane crashing into a building?
Posted by: The_Turks(ff7)
any guesses when 9/11 will become a national holiday?
I am somewhat affected. I wont say im indifferent cuz im not. Bin Laden and whoever the hell else did this will pay handsomely. Didnt we already get Bin Ladens son or some relative? My guess is Bin Laden is already dead, blown to bits and we cant find significant body parts. I know that not all Muslims are bad but the evil ones must die and rot in the burning hells...
Posted by: Spider
September 11th, I hope, will never be a holiday. They never gave a holiday for Pearl Harbor. Though they did get a major motion picture. Which by the way, sucks ass.
Posted by: redwench
i sincerely hope it doesnt become a holiday. i would like to think congress has more sense than that.
Posted by: Tweaker
"The last thing this country needs is another holiday. I can see it now: "Hurry in now for our 9/11 mattress sale - Save up to 50 percent!" A holiday would cheapen this important and powerful day.
Holiday is the wrong word. It should be called a National Day of Remembrance, many lives have been touched by this and this day should always be remembered.
Posted by: Gunslinger
You mean, that wasn't just a CNN Original Movie?
Lies.
Posted by: redwench
we have a national day of remembrance. its called memorial day.
Posted by: Null Actor
And there are plenty of memorial day sales to cheapen it.
Posted by: Gunslinger
Man. I need to put together a shopping list.
Thanks for reminding me.
Posted by: rockjock
Oh, please. Not another gov/bank holiday! We already "donate" enough tax dollars for days the normal business world doesn't take off. I think that the loss of loved ones falls under Memorial Day just fine.
I believe that the day is important to remember but you could spare me the yearly media and political circus.
Posted by: Gunslinger
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Originally posted by rockjock
I believe that the day is important to remember but you could spare me the yearly media and political circus.
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If wishes were horses then beggars would ride. If turnips were watches I'd wear one by my side.
Posted by: AK47
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Originally posted by Canis Lupus
I mean, even the kids you see playing with cars, trucks or planes always crash them into each other, or into something ... it's an instinct to be in awe of seeing something big crash into something similarly big...
So don't try to tell me that planes crashing into buildings is something new and unthought-of ... it IS interesting to see, if you don't feel any other emotion other than awe.
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Thanks laggy- my thoughts exactly
Posted by: PhantomGamer
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Originally posted by Canis Lupus
I mean, even the kids you see playing with cars, trucks or planes always crash them into each other, or into something ... it's an instinct to be in awe of seeing something big crash into something similarly big
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Kids do that but they don't expect it to happen in real life
Posted by: Bishlopim
I'm way too sick of hearing about it to even say anything about it.
Posted by: Canis Lupus
Okay, got rid of all the garbage ... trolls and flamers will be castrated and will be strangled using their intestines... blah blah...
back on topic...
Posted by: Shark180
hey i know you all hate me but here is a question at my high school we are having a debate about having sptember 11th off of school. I feel that we shouldn't have that day off.It would be remembered as a day that we get off of school not for how many that died or the day the America changed its few on the world. Tell me wht you think
Posted by: Null Actor
If it gets turned in to a holiday, expect to hear phrases like "Happy september eleventh" and "September eleventh: Blowout sale!"
Posted by: Canis Lupus
I think it's just another excuse for slackers not to go to school ...
it's alright to observe it ... go to church, light some candles, read some psalms - but it should still be a school day...
Posted by: nocode
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Originally posted by Canis Lupus
Okay, got rid of all the garbage ... trolls and flamers will be castrated and will be strangled using their intestines... blah blah...
back on topic...
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lmao.........damn....i love your since of humor!
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hey i know you all hate me but here is a question at my high school we are having a debate about having sptember 11th off of school. I feel that we shouldn't have that day off.It would be remembered as a day that we get off of school not for how many that died or the day the America changed its few on the world. Tell me wht you think
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BAD IDEA!......oh and i don't hate you
Posted by: Shark180
thanks for the responce thats how i feal about it too.Most ppl would go to the mall or skateboarding and not give a rats ass about what happend that day
Posted by: redwench
im sure there are a many viewpoints to that. but do we really wish to commerate every tragic event that happens? pearl harbor certainly had a greater loss of life, no holiday. battle of normandy, ditto. it never a good idea to tie a holiday to a specific historic event, it loses its meaning with time. which is why we have memorial and veterans days, rather than ones for each war or event. not to mention, wed soon fill the calendar with holidays which would render them equally meaningless.
federal holidays should be about a bigger picture than one isolated event, no matter how important it is at the time.
Posted by: Shark180
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Originally posted by Nova Z
If it gets turned in to a holiday, expect to hear phrases like "Happy september eleventh" and "September eleventh: Blowout sale!"
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I so agree with you man so unhappy september 11th to you
Posted by: Nfested
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Originally posted by Canis Lupus
I think it's just another excuse for slackers not to go to school ...
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Yes. The students already get most of the day off with 9/11 assemblies, commemorations,etc. It's basically already a half day. We don't need another day off to make school last one day longer.
Posted by: Kdr Kane
That's interesting to hear.
Most of the schools around here are minimizing events associated with 9/11. It was traumatizing enough without rekindling insecurities.
Posted by: AngstMerchant
The news channels are gonna be "September 11th"-flavored for the next week and that is not even remotely about patriotism, not to them. It's about money. It's about getting people to watch. It's about people being afraid that someone else might think that they don't care about what happened. It's about the natural human tendency to be captivated by destruction and suffering. So, the media nipples are gonna be offering up a truckload of sappy-assed montages, testimonials and yet even more repeated shots of the disaster in an attempt to draw a crowd and sell that advertising space.
As far as September 11th is concerned, I care. The woman that I love was working at a military installation during the tragedy, a military installation that happens to be one of the juiciest targets in the United States. I was white-knuckle hollow-eyed mesmerized with horror by the whole thing and I had a lot more to lose than most Americans for the next 18 hours that she was not allowed to leave after the disaster happened. I had more reason to care about the disaster than just the potentially lost lives of a couple thousand strangers in a city most Americans have never seen first-hand. I was afraid for the safety of a loved one and I was horrified at the huge amount of carnage that had already happened in New York. However, I don't need to show or project how I feel about the whole ****ed-up situation to anyone else. I don't need to be a part of some ritual or make a spectacle of myself to feel complete. I don't need a cheap flag on my car or some cheesy desktop image to prove to others that I was hurt and scared just as bad as everyone else. I don't have to make appearances to protect myself from suspicion or scorn. The rest of the world can kiss my ass. The things that had to be learned about on September 11th are a part of the way I view the world and the way I live my life every day.
So, on September 11th, while the media strings up the stiffened corpse of a national tragedy to make that bloody marionette shake its moneymaker one last time, I will be turning away.
Posted by: jrpm
I'll go back and read from the start, but for my 2 cents,
after the Cole, the African Embassies, Beirut, not to forget the first Trade Center bombing, and so on, I am/was suprised it took so long for a 'major event'.
But maybe I played too many security games in my misspent youth of the 70's.
Posted by: redwench
On 19 November 1863 President Abraham Lincoln dedicated a cemetery on a Civil War battlefield where 51,000 Confederate and Union soldiers were lost or wounded after just three days of fighting.
Most Americans cannot hear the name of the Pennsylvania town of Gettysburg without thinking of President Abraham Lincoln's famous - and elegantly brief - speech on that occasion.
On September 11 2002, more than a century later, Lincoln's two-minute speech to honour the sacrifices of the war dead was read by New York Governor George Pataki at a ceremony to remember the victims of the September 11 attacks:
"Four score and seven years ago our fathers brought forth, on this continent, a new nation, conceived in liberty, and dedicated to the proposition that all men are created equal.
Now we are engaged in a great civil war, testing whether that nation, or any nation so conceived, and so dedicated, can long endure.
We are met on a great battlefield of that war. We have come to dedicate a portion of that field, as a final resting-place for those who here gave their lives, that that nation might live.
It is altogether fitting and proper that we should do this. But, in a larger sense, we cannot dedicate, we cannot consecrate - we cannot hallow - this ground.
The brave men, living and dead, who struggled here, have consecrated it far above our poor power to add or detract.
The world will little note, nor long remember what we say here, but it can never forget what they did here.
It is for us the living, rather, to be dedicated here to the unfinished work which they who fought here have thus far so nobly advanced.
It is rather for us to be here dedicated to the great task remaining before us - that from these honored dead we take increased devotion to that cause for which they gave the last full measure of devotion - that we here highly resolve that these dead shall not have died in vain - that this nation, under God, shall have a new birth of freedom, and that government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth."
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/2250665.stm
i found this to be far more appropriate than most of the other nonsense going on today.
Posted by: Null Actor
"that we here highly resolve that these dead shall not have died in vain - that this nation, under God, shall have a new birth of freedom"
Ironic as well.
Posted by: The_Turks(ff7)
I have heard that next year the september 11th will be a day off next year, i hope this is false cuz sure it would be nice to have a day off, but at the same time it would lessen the tragic part of the day. Im at school, its the eleventh and im typing this and they make today a club day, which i believe is wrong, we should be in mourning not having fun in "Clubs".
I know that the news networks will be yapping about this, I think that that is what they should do but sometimes it gets old, they should only talk about this every 2 hours and only for about 30 minutes, not all day.
Today in school, it is decorated with red white and blue. We havent even said the pledge today so ill say it now
"I Pledge Allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, And to the republic for which it stands, one nation, under god, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all"
Posted by: redwench
nova, im glad someone besides me caught that.
heh, note the "with liberty and justice for all" bit. thats turning into a farce as well.
Posted by: redwench
well, no minor should be allowed to say the pledge of allegience, since they arent capable of making that decision. in general, only federal employees should, since they are the only ones to whom it applies.
Posted by: Xtren
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Originally posted by redwench
true lies, just to name one. i presume you will boycott that movie, and all others that show a plane crashing into a building?
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It's not the same thing, it feels much different if you see something like that happen in real life. Everything in movies are fake, nobody actually dies, and I could really care less if I saw a movie with a plane crashing into a tall building. I think it's important to get over an event like this, and that a movie is no longer considered of bad taste if it shows a plane crashing into a building. A lot of good movies could be made following that storyline. However, if a plane crashes into a building in real life, it is real, and people do die, unlike in a movie.
Posted by: Outlaw
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Originally posted by Xtren
Everything in movies are fake, nobody actually dies
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Ever seen The Crow?
Posted by: nocode
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Originally posted by Outlaw
Ever seen The Crow?
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no doubt, that's messed up how that guy got killed before the film was actually completed!
Posted by: Gunslinger
Referencing Brandon Lee is a bit out of context, but a decent point just the same.
I don't really think I like the direction of this discussion. Bringing it to a debate about the differences between real-life and what is seen in a movie, I think, is chasing a red herring.
While all of it does seem extremely relevant to the issue, I personally feel that it is just surface noise that covers up everything at the middle. Everyone would much rather avoid the deeper philosophical discussion and instead get into a pissing match about whether or not something is appropriate for public viewing. It makes for good news - something like the rickety old witch living down the street that always insists on sticking her nose in everyone's business.
Posted by: redwench
*sticks her nose in and proceeds to issue orders*
Posted by: Xtren
Has anybody actually been watching any of the programs of TV that have been aired of late about September 11th? I've found some of those very interesting, not knowing some of the stuff the they showed about the WTC myself. Oh and I wonder if anyone actually went to the memorial service they had in New York. Somebody has bound to live in the city don't they?
Posted by: redwench
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Posted by: The_Turks(ff7)
god why the hell did i move to florida, 3 more terrorists were caught today. Right on Alligator Alley, a road not too far away...
Posted by: Xtren
Terrorists have always been around, just people started paying a lot more attention to them ever since 9/11. Either that, or a lot more crimes are now considered acts of terrorism.
Posted by: AngstMerchant
Well, considering that an act of terrorism used to mean an act by agents of an illegitimate or underground group that threatened the lives of innocent people in the interest of coercing a nation or group to do something, you are certainly correct on that issue. Terrorism now means anything the Bush Administration wants you to hate. It has been applied to everything from acts of desperation and madness commited by an individual to a legitimate act of war by a legitimate nation.
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