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New HDD problem

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Posted by: SuBZeRoS

Hi to all.
I have a question, I have a new HDD Maxtor 60Gb ATA133 and when i try to find it in BIOS the system frezes. So can anybody help me where to find a newer version for my BIOS, so I can flash the BIOS and it will suport my new HDD. Please HELP.

Here is my configuration:
CPU: Pentium II 350MHz (L1 cache: 32.0 Kb, L2 cache: 512.0 Kb)
BIOS: Award Modular BIOS v4.51PG (12-Mar-1999)
MotherBoard: BX98-3D 691-586B-8661-2A6LFZ1AC-00



Posted by: -Memnoch-

Before you go on a flashing binge, lets get some information about this drive. Model number would be good enough.

Consider the IDE cable. Is it a 133 cable or a standard ATA cable.

What operating system do you use?

What setting did you use on this new drive? It it a slave or a master? Is it on IDE 1 or IDE 2?

What other drives are installed? If any.

One quick method i use in cases like this is to create a standard windows 98se boot up disk. Then extract Fdisk.exe and format.exe to this floppy.

Boot with this floppy. As it boots off the floppy, Selcet shift+F5 - command prompt or dos mode.

Run fdisk. Select the new drive and create a 3 or 4 gig partition on the new drive. Reboot.

At start up same thing Shift+F5 format the new parition. reboot into the OS and allow the os to see the drive. From device manager select the new drive and do a driver update on the drive.

If your on win2k the administration tools/ computer management/disk managment This will allow you to get a better look at the drive. In many cases it will ask to write a signature on the drive. Do it.



Posted by: SuBZeRoS

The numbers on the disk are:

DiamondMax 16 60Gb ATA/133 HDD
E-HO11-02-3122
Code:RAMB1TU0
SN: R2057KFE

4R060J0220201
LBA: 120103200
Mfg. Date:25AUG2002

It is a standard ATA cable, I use Win Me.
I have quantum 2.5 GB, Seagate 8 Gb, TEAC CDRW.
I tried it as master and slave on IDE 1, I have tried it without the other disks and still it does not work.

When the new HDD is in the computer does not get to the point where the windows starts, so I can not try with fdisk.
And if I select NONE for the disk in the BIOS, then fdisk can't find it.



Posted by: -Memnoch-

Alright. Lets try this link - MaxBlastPlus

Or try the bios flash if your up to it.
Looks like this site has some decent tools to ID the correct Bios for your particular board http://www.wimsbios.com/

This is the only bios listed from the manufacturer of your board. Listed as a discontinued product.
BX98-3D Bios

As always. Be very careful when Flashing a bios. Take your time and fully understand the flash before you use it.



Posted by: SuBZeRoS

The program MaxBlastPlus did not help.
I found the BIOS at the link you gave me, and I have a question:
What if I flash the BIOS and install the update and everything goes OK, can I be sure that the new BIOS will find my 60 GB HDD ???



Posted by: -Memnoch-

The information provided with the Bios doesn't mention anything about solving you issue.

So your guess is as good as mine. It appears the motherboard you have has been discontinued by the manufacturer. Perhaps a call or email to them would answer your question.

Without seeing the bios on your machine, its hard to explain any possible solution to your issue.

Another alternative would be to get the drive into another machine that can detect the drive and simply partition and format the drive in that machine. Then return the drive to your machine. I would stick to a small partition at first, around 4 or 5 gig.

The maxtor knowledge base has this advice regarding your issue.

Drive Jumpers: On drives that are larger than 32 GB there is a Capacity Limitation Jumper or the Alternate Capacity (AC) Jumper setting. This jumper will limit the capacity of the drive to 32 GB and should only be used when the BIOS hangs when trying to auto-detect the drive. Make sure that this jumper is NOT on.
The capacity limitation jumper is outlined in dashes on the Maxtor jumper settings page.


BIOS: On older systems (pre- November 1998) the BIOS may not support drives that are larger than 32 GB. In the BIOS setup please set the drive type to AUTO detect. If the BIOS detects the full capacity of the drive then the BIOS will support the capacity of the drive. If not please perform one of the following:


Check with the system or motherboard manufacturer for any BIOS upgrades for the system.


If a BIOS update is not available from the manufacturer you can also visit the following site: www.esupport.com and download the BIOS Agent to determine if an update is available for purchase for your system. The BIOS Agent will identify the BIOS on your system and provide you with all of the information that you will need for ordering a BIOS update. Maxtor® Corporation provides this information as a courtesy to its customers and has no official affiliation with esupport.com.


(Recommended) Purchase a PCI ATA controller card that will support the capacity of the drive. The two benefits of ATA controller cards are:
The ability to support large capacity drives
The ability to support the faster transfer rates of the drive. Maxtor's online store, www.maxtordirect.com, has a complete selection of ATA controller cards that support all Maxtor drives.


The last option would be to use our MaxBlast Plus II software. The MaxBlast software will install an overlay (EZ-BIOS) on the hard drive to support the full capacity of the drive.


Operating System: Windows XP and 2000 have a 32 GB format limitation for FAT 32. That means if you formatted the drive in FAT 32 with Windows XP and 2000, the largest partition supported is 32 GB. You will need to format the drive in NTFS if you want to partition the drive larger than 32 GB.

If your disk drive is not being detected (auto-detected) by the system BIOS, try the following steps to try and isolate/troubleshoot the problem.

No Power to drive (drive is not spinning up)
If the drive is not receiving power or an incorrect level of power (12v) it will not spin up. To check to see if this is the cause of the BIOS not detecting the hard drive follow these steps.
With the system turned off, open the computer case and remove the data cable only from the hard drive. This will stop any “power saving” commands from being sent to the drive.
Turn on the system. Check to see if the hard drive is spinning. If you touch the side of the drive you should feel a slight vibration. If you do not hear or feel the hard drive spinning you will need to find out if the drive is getting power.

If the drive is getting power and spinning up go to the next step. If the drive is not spinning please visit the Warranty Information Page.

Incorrect jumper settings on the drive
If the Master / Slave jumper configuration is set incorrectly the drive may not be detected by the BIOS. Please consult the Jumper Setting Page for further instructions.
Important: Ultra-ATA data cables typically have their connectors color-coded to help you identify proper drive placement. On these cables, the master drive is attached to the black (end) connector, the slave is connected to the gray (middle) connector, and the blue connector is attached directly to either your motherboard or your ATA adapter card.

Picture of an ATA Ultra data cable.
If the drive is jumpered correctly go to the next step.

Capacity of the hard drive is too large for the BIOS to support
On older systems (pre- November 1998) the BIOS may not support drives that are larger than 32 GB. If the ATA hard drive you are trying to install has a capacity larger than what the BIOS can support the drive may not be detected by the system.
To troubleshoot this problem follow these steps.
Enter the system BIOS. This is usually accomplished by pressing the F2, Delete, or F1 key when your system is powering on. When you first turn on your computer look for a on-screen message indicating which key to press to enter Setup.
Select User or User defined and enter:
Cylinders = 1025
Heads = 16
Sectors = 63
LBA Mode or IDE Translation Mode = Normal, Standard CHS, or disabled.
These parameters will tell the system that your drive's capacity is 502 MB or 528 MB, a capacity that most, if not all BIOS's can support.
Save BIOS settings and exit.
Restart the system with MaxBlast Plus II. MaxBlast will install a disk overlay that will allow the BIOS to support the full capacity of the drive.

Note: Windows XP and 2000 users: Please download MaxBlast Plus II version 1.30. Older versions of MaxBlast will not support Windows XP and 2000.

Faulty Data Cable
Try connecting the drive to the system using a different data cable. Remember to use the same type (either standard or Ultra)data cable you are replacing.
If your data cable is in good working order go to the next step



Posted by: The-AoD

Pretty specific Memn. LOL

As for that, if the steps don't work, definetly get an ATA controller from Maxtor or Promise. They are G-r-r-reat! hehehehh Simplistic, and only use one PCI slot.



 
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