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Michael Moore's new movie.
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Posted by: AltronHGX
Has anyone here seen his new movie "Bowling for Columbine"?
Note: If you don't know of Michael Moore's work and you are a member of the NRA do not see this movie or bother posting on this thread. kthx.
I've read both of his books and now I've seen the movie and I want more.
If America is as smart as I hope it is then this movie ought to skyrocket to the #1 documentary film ever made.
Please, comments. 
(Thanks for not shooting me.)
Posted by: Null Actor
Edit: Erm, post contains 'spoilers' if they can be called such.
I found it interesting. Especially the comparisons between Canada and the US.
For instance, I find it perfectly natural to not bother locking your doors if you are at home and awake. I was absolutely flabbergasted to find out that it's normal in the US to always have your doors locked. It's a minor point, I know, but I think it says a lot.
I was also damn near stunned to find out that Canada has more guns per capita than the US. That's just insane - I've never seen a gun outside of a firing range other than being on a police officer's belt. None of my friends have guns, and if their parents had them, I never knew. The closest I've seen are pellet/BB guns.
Also, on that same point... I have no fear of being shot in Canada. Never have, most likely never will. You almost never hear of shootings in Canada. It's so rare, that when it happens, it makes the front page news. Sometimes across the country.
Oh... and the news bit? "New speed bumps!" That wasn't a joke. I've seen plenty of news stories like that. I think it's because local news in Canada tends to focus on the community, rather than anything else. It's not uncommon to see news stories about those kinds of things.
If anything, this movie proved to me beyond a doubt how different our two countries really are.
Posted by: AK47
I've never had any fear of being shot here in the US.
I'm looking forward to seeing this movie. Hope its as good as Roger and Me.
Posted by: AltronHGX
Well what he was talking about in the US Media wasn't untrue either. Near 24/7 we're always hearing about irrelevant news concerning outrageous things like Shark attacks (During the summer of 2001 all you heard about was Shark attacks until 9/11 happened).
For about a month this year the big media trend was kidnappings. Even though you're more likely to be struck by lightning than be kidnapped.
And don't get me started on the whole "COULD YOUR DAILY RIDE UP THE ESCALATOR BE YOUR LAST?" bullshit.
I think a few years ago this kid got his leg torn off because of something foolish he did on the escalator. The family sued SEPTA, got a settlement and everything was dandy. But the stupid news reportings went on.
For ****'s sake. What is more important-- Having health coverage when you're retired or BEING TORN APART BY A RABID ESCALATOR IN YOUR ROUTINE PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION TRIP TO WORK!!
Oh, and I'd like to add that Michael Moore's "interview" with the NRA chief, Charleton Heston, was incredible.
And the end of it really got to me.
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Deep down inside.
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Where I'm soft.
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Like a woman.
Posted by: redwench
well, the only reason my doors are locked if im home and awake is because i havent unlocked them yet. and they are occasionally unlocked if im in a coma or gone 
the only places id have any fear of being shot are the same places anyone else would, inner cites. outside of the inner cites, i suspect the us and canada are very similar in fact. its just that us americans are a fearful bunch. i blame the media.
Posted by: Spider
I'm reminded of Brody at the mall.
Posted by: Null Actor
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Originally posted by redwench
the only places id have any fear of being shot are the same places anyone else would, inner cites.
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Supposedly you have a greater chance of being shot in suburbs, rather than inner cities, if I remember correctly.
Posted by: Canis Lupus
I lock my doors at the apartment ... it's a habit, and it's a good habit ... you never know when those Jehova's Witnesses would go too far to "spread the word" ...
Posted by: Kdr Kane
Micheal Moore is quite adept at showing his side of the story.
Posted by: AltronHGX
What?
Posted by: AK47
What do you mean 'what'?
Posted by: AltronHGX
What as in; I misunderstand. Please clarify.
edit: Yeah, even though it was based on "his" perspective on a lot of issues he was also talking to a lot of people for half the movie.
I thought you were bashing him and insinuating that he was one-sided.
Hello.
Posted by: redwench
you dont understand that moores films are his point of view, and not a balanced documentary?
Posted by: Qui Gon-Jinn
Ok.. I saw this.. Hell I started a long thread on it over at Fr3nsyc.net..
let me quote it..
***STOLEN FROM FR3NSYC.NET***
Ok... OMFG This movie is great..
Michael Moore is a Genius...
Informational.. Educational.. Though provoking.. (Yeah I know I can't Spell.. so sue me.. )
He ask questions.. some that it seems other people won't ask..
He reiterates what I and some of the other people who post here seem to belive.. The MEDIA shoves what they want you to belive down your throat..
And Charelton Heston.. Interesting guy.. short temper.. watch out he keeps a loaded gun in his house..
Terry Nicholes Brother (Can't remember his first name.. James I think) Keeps a loaded .44 under his pillow.. and he is pretty strange..
The Michigan Millita are a group of average guys.. They Just like guns..
I think everyone should see this movie.. I have to say it was worth the $6 I paid to see it..
Gegner.. go see it..
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I liked it.. simple as that..
Posted by: Chako
Fearful in which way Red?
Locking the door is a sensible precaution anywhere on this planet.
As for the use of the term "gun". A gun is an artillery piece. I wince when I hear this term misused.
Posted by: redwench
we fear things all out of proportion to reality. people fear flying when theyre far more likely to die driving to the grocery store. were afraid of some stranger walking into our home and robbing/raping/killing us, but statistically speaking, its almost unheard of. most crimes against you are commited by someone you know.
basically, americans arent taught to understand the difference between anecdotal evidence and statistical evidence. crime is a serious problem in only a few areas. yet we worry about that more than we do something like food poisoning, which affects millions of people a year.
Posted by: Canis Lupus
I'm sure the statistics of home invasion would be significantly higher if people adopted the mentality that locking their doors is statistically "silly" 
Posted by: Null Actor
Using these sites:
http://www.statcan.ca/english/Pgdb/legal02.htm
http://www.disastercenter.com/crime/uscrime.htm
It shows that we had 953.4 break and enters per 100000 people in 2000, where as you had 728.4 per 100000 in 2000.
(BTW, can anyone find a US gov't link for that second statistic? I couldn't google one up).
Posted by: Null Actor
"The National Rifleman's Association held a pro-gun rally in Tucson, Arizona, just two days after a Gulf War veteran shot and killed three nursing professors there."
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