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big brother is trying to watch you
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Posted by: redwench
It was reported that Admiral John M. Poindexter, who was convicted in the Iran-Contra affair in 1990 but later acquitted on a technicality, joined the Bush Administration earlier this year as head of the Office of Information Awareness at the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency. Poindexter is in charge of a new system called Total Information Awareness, which would permit the military to spy on the civilian population of the United States without search warrants by scanning personal information such as email, credit-card statements, banking and medical records, and travel documents for patterns that suggest criminal or terrorist activities. Deployment of the surveillance technology would require new legislation, since the military traditionally has not been allowed to spy on ordinary American citizens. "This could be the perfect storm for civil liberties in America," said Marc Rotenberg, director of the Electronic Privacy Information Center, "The vehicle is the Homeland Security Act, the technology is Darpa, and the agency is the FBI. The outcome is a system of national surveillance of the American public."
this is just damn creepy. and someone tell me how medical records would help them find terrorists? hospitals are already required to report gunshot wounds and the like.
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Posted by: Null Actor
I liked this part, especially the wording:
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The White House was thinking about abandoning its prosecution of Zacarias Moussaoui, which was not going so well, and trying him instead before a military tribunal, where victory would be assured.
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Posted by: redwench
yes, that interested me as well. why bother with the trial?
Posted by: Null Actor
Oh you know, constitution, rights, all that. Just gets in the way of JUSTICE if you ask me!
Posted by: Fink
The people who are doing this are using 9/11 as a reason for it. they have been trying to do this for years and this is the best way to make it possible to actually do this and have it be legall. this is just pure lame if you ask me. i think that they should find other ways then spying on people when they are talking or doing personal things in their home or somewhere they feel safe. the government should find other ways to find possible terrorists or whatever the **** they are trying to find by tapping our phonelines and reading our personal e-mails to one another. they are going to use this to catch people for many other things than just terrorists actions or wrong doing. im out of time and i cant finish. ill do it when i get home.... ---- more later----
Posted by: Fink
that's all i really wanted to say... but this is really lame. if they make this legall i hope there are people that will protest about it over and over....
Lets start a Riot :-/
Posted by: scorpion_gold
The NSA already watches everything, why should it matter if the FBI watches too?
Posted by: Bored
Don't worry, if the CIA, NSA, FBI and the host of other intelligence agencies had no idea of a hijacking, you have no need to worry about your software pirating, underage drinking, or whatever other little thing you do.
Posted by: Cettie
I already live in such a place where my e-mail is monitored, my phone tapped and the mail tampered with. Currently the Town Supervisor is suing me, my husband and a 91 year old woman over freedom of speech issues. She wrote an opinion piece for the community newsletter stating that he was a thief and a crook. We were served the summons in July and are being sued for $1.4 MILLION. Still in litigation and things are getting messy. So yes, big brother is a big BOTHER.
Posted by: Erekose
... yeah thanks i think ill just keep living in my car. that sucks cettie
Posted by: Arwen
You can often here the click of someone intercepting the phone calls on my line and several other family and friends' phones. The problem is we're Irish Catholic and living in the UK. Need I say more?
Posted by: Null Actor
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Originally posted by Bored
Don't worry, if the CIA, NSA, FBI and the host of other intelligence agencies had no idea of a hijacking, you have no need to worry about your software pirating, underage drinking, or whatever other little thing you do.
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I wouldn't be so sure of that.
Posted by: redwench
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Originally posted by Arwen
You can often here the click of someone intercepting the phone calls on my line and several other family and friends' phones. The problem is we're Irish Catholic and living in the UK. Need I say more?
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actually, yes you do. internal security forces/police in the uk have better things to do than tap lines of random irish catholics. even if you live in belfast. if your lines are indeed tapped, theres another reason. theres millions of catholics in the UK.
Posted by: ccpeters
Take Notice
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All this and more has been going on inside the Federal Government for decades and they are now using this situation which they helped create to bring these kind of practices out into the open and make them legal to use in the court system. The Constitution is no longer in effect and is no longer enforced or even considered necessary by the powers that be. We all know this but have not wanted to admit it to ourselves. But know this, you are all witnessing the downfall of the modern Roman Empire just as was the manner of the downfall of the Ancient Roman Empire. The Federal Government does what it wants, when it wants, and just spins the rest. Everything else is meer window dressing.
So just get ready. We'll be the first to see it as it will come first thru communications and computer technology. All those who would doubt this need but to read your local paper and watch the national news.
"When the government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny."
Posted by: Erekose
forgive me for being a wee bit judgemental maybe, but you dont by anychance have a stockpile of arms and ammunition and canned goods hidden in a bunker in the hills (arkansas, confederated states of america) do you cc?
Posted by: Arwen
The price of freedom IS freedom.
Posted by: Shalome
Uh.. no.
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