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Rich Kids and Parents
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Posted by: N.W.A_Kid
Okay this is one of my favorite things to rave about. I come from a middle class family, we have a decent home with quite a bit of stuff, however a lot of that stuff is older than I am and I'm 19, we barely make ends meet because of all my parents' debt, and I'm struggling too with losing my job. I drive a 99 Honda Accord EX, decent car, nothing supremely fancy.
I am so sick and tired of seeing these little rich kids driving around brand new Mustangs and Caddy's. Now they're even starting to drive Benzes. And those kids don't even appreciate their cars that mommy and daddy buy them. Everything I have I've earned myself and I feel proud of it. Back and I was in school I used to hear kids brag about all the stuff mommy and daddy bought them. It gets on my nerves. Is it possible these kids are paying for their car plus insurance? No. Is it possible they pay one or the other? No. Is it possible they're leasing them with a parent's cosign? No. Could it be their parents' car? Possibly, but they drive these damn things everyday so that kinda leaves it out. No 16 year old kid should be driving something so nice like that. They're not drug dealers, I doubt the little rich kids could it here. Usually dealers are more like myself (in my area). No way could kid working at McDonald's making 8 bucks an hour only working 24-32 hours a week pay for a mustang, benz, or new caddy, and pay the insurance on it too. Oh well just had to get that off of my chest. Just tired of little rich kids out there flaunting what their parents bought them. I will never hate on someone who has way more than I do that earned it, just those who have it handed down to them AND think that they're "so cool." Now if someone is handed something nice that appreciates it, that's a little different...well you get the idea.
Posted by: nocode
it doesn't stop even after the teenage years. you should be thankful that you have grown up in a way to where you respect and are thankful for the things you have earned or been given. i feel that people turn out for the better that learn the values of what it takes to earn what you have.
this is a prime example of what i am talking about when i say it doesn't stop after the teenage years. i have worked as a CNC computer programer for 10 years and do you know who my Boss is? (the owners son!) this guy is my age and has no experience with cnc programing, but yet he is my Boss. why is he my boss? well, he's the owner's son and that's just the way things go. he's had everything handed to him all of his life and his attitude and personality suffer greatly because of it. i would consider this would be putting it nicely but, he's a real Ass!
i guess i said all of that to say this.......get use to it because some things in life just aren't fair and there is nothing you can do to change that. you can't get caught up in worrying about people who seem to have it better than you, because even if it seems that they do, they will probably suffer later in life with the basics of life. oh and God forbid mommy and daddy ever cut'em off! most of them wouldn't know where to begin!
Posted by: scorpion_gold
i feel your pain. my family lives comfortably, i suppose, in a small house, small for six people anyway, but we're happy we have it. a lot of the people in my town are rich, and they have their heads stuck up their asses.
but hey, that's life. we should just get used to it.
Posted by: Bobaroo
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Originally posted by scorpion_gold
i feel your pain. my family lives comfortably, i suppose, in a small house, small for six people anyway, but we're happy we have it. a lot of the people in my town are rich, and they have their heads stuck up their asses.
but hey, that's life. we should just get used to it.
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O yea, that is exactly how your town is
Posted by: ZeRo_MaXwInG
Work hard, and be proud of it. nocode is right, life isn't fair. Rich only get richer. No two ways about it. I'm aiming to becoming a doctor. I know I have a lot of work ahead of me, but in the end, I know that the work I have done is worth it.
Most kids in a more fortunate family gets the easy way in life, they probably don't have to work until the're 30s. And even then they get an easy office job, much like the situation nocode mentioned. But nothing you can do about it.
Posted by: Null Actor
So what, just because you don't have everything means that everyone else should be brought down to your level?
What exactly do you expect the parents to do if they have money? Just keep it all to themselves and not share it with their kids just because it makes you feel inferior?
I'd like to see you rationalize why parents with money can't share the money with their kids, without sounding full of jealousy and envy.
Posted by: Gunslinger
My own rant on the subject: (note, not attacking anybody, just offering my own experience from the other side of the ball, any info used from other posts is really just used as jump points for my own comments)
I might as well start off telling you where I come from. I was born in Tulsa, OK almost exactly 20 years ago. At 11, we moved to St. Louis, a place much more difficult to live in financially. At 16, to a small town in Alabama, where, needless to say, it wasn't so difficult.
Ok then. I lived in a very rich suburb in a very well off neighboorhood in St.Louis. I moved to Alabama, into a comparatively poor town (poor state), where the cost of living was 20% lower, so everything I was able to enjoy in St.Louis was that +20% in Alabama. I live on a street that is know as where "they" live.....
.....I can't stand that ****ing bullshit.
For my remaining years of high school, I was one of those "spoiled little rich kids" to the other denizens of that fair (omg I hope it gets swallowed by the Earth) town. And my family wasn't even involved with the church. That pissed them off even more.
Anyway. I would get harrassed by a handful of people who felt it was their duty to let me know just what they thought of people who "had more money" or "lived more confortably" than they did. I'm sorry that 'some' people have financial hardships in their live, and I'm humble about what I have been fortunate enough to have, but in most cases, I have no sympathy for any of these people.
How could I be so cold and heartless, you ask? Here's how. My family did not always have money. The incomes that helped to support me all of my life came from three places: My mother, stepfather, and my birth father. Where did they come from? Very poor families with many children to support. I am where I am today, because my parents worked hard, all day, everyday, for many years, and they still do. My mother juggled raising me in my very early years with things like working 40 or more hours per week, contributing to a stable household, and *gasp* going back to school so that maybe I can have things better later in life.
Guess who did the same thing? My father. Both of them, one after flunking out of college, and the other not going, have earned master's degrees in their field through toil and blood, because they wanted me to have it better; and now I do, thanks solely to them.
Sorry for going through the entire life story of the family, but it was necessary for the point. And the point is, we still know where we came from, and know what it's like to not not have nice things. Because of this, we are humble about everything. We don't flaunt anything, and don't live extravagantly. Do I drive a Benz or a Caddy? Nope. Yeah, I have a car, but it's something reasonable for a (at the time) teenager to be driving.
Basically what I'm saying, is that to anyone who looks and me and my family with the anti-rich kid attitude (and in that small town in Alabama, it happen a lot), all I have to say is, "go **** yourself."
After reading some of the other posts in the thread, I'll add a few more comments from my own perspective.
You're probably right, Zero. A lot of kids who have welthy or very well-to-do parents, probably don't work a day in their life until they get out of school (at whatever level that may be) or until their parents throw them out. I am an exception to that. My parents never really gave me money, even though they had it. They put clothes on my back and a rof over my head, and that was good enough for me. Anything else, I earned myself. I got my first job at 14. got a second one at 15. Worked another one for a long while when I got to Alabama. I'm in college now, and am employed by the University as an RA. I was grateful for everything that my parents provided for me, and I worked for everything else. Unlike the 'general' group of people being referenced in this thread, I was actually taught the value of money, and of a solid day's work.
In retrospect, I'm glad I was raised the way I was - glad it all happened the way that it did. For most of my young life, I lived pretty comfortably, but I did not lose perspective as a result of that comfort. I still worked for what I had. I still have respect for everyone else regardless of their situation, because they are probably working very hard to support their families too. I will still get an education, and go out and work hard every day like everyone else does, so that someday, I may be raising a family of my own, and teaching my children the same things my parents taught me.
I understand that in a large sense, the sentiments presented in this thread are probably true--in fact, I do know of some cases myself. I just thought I would give you guys a different story from someone raised a little differently than the group you are referring to-even though I sometimes get grouped with them myself.
Posted by: justinious
Nova, I think the point is: If everything is given to you, you do not develop a concept of value. For example, my step-sister expects my mother and step-father to pay for her schooling. She wants to go to a $28,000/yr private college. Her grades are mediocre at best. She hasn't tried looking for scholarships. Why does she expect this? Her mother has given everything to her. She gets a car, cash, and insurance from her mother. Her father, a blue collar worker, makes her work for privileges and wants her to learn to rely on herself instead of expecting handouts. If anything I pity the pampered, spoiled, etc. because they will have a limited sense of work ethic and dollar value at best. Of course, not all well-to-do families are so superficial.
My main beef is my mother is in the upper-middle class bracket, but she worked DAMNED hard to get there. I remember as a child living in duplexes and eating mac 'n cheese with hot dogs for dinner (still one of my favorite comfort foods). She paid her way through college, worked her way up to one of the top IT positions at the local newspaper after 25 yrs. Now she is expected to fork over her hard-earned cash, so a spoiled, ungrateful woman-child can go to a party school. I can see how some people can get resentful.
Posted by: Null Actor
There is a difference. Your step-sister is a spoiled brat who expects something that (from the sound of your post) wouldn't be easy to give.
If a family has money to spare, and are giving it freely, then tell me again: How does that make them bad people? Try to explain without sounding like you are green.
Posted by: justinious
It's not bad to share cash. It's bad to let your children become dependent on hand-outs.
Posted by: redwench
is it silly to give a 16 year old a brand new benz? of course. but why are you blaming the child? its considered to be polite to accept a gift graciously. after all, a car is a car. im sure they would have been happy with a late model ford.
and no, im not a rich kid. my first car was a graduation present, and was 7 years old or so at the time. my parents replaced it a few years later with a 6 year old car because of safety concerns. i paid my way through school with scholarships and jobs.
but i find it rather insulting that you blame the child for simply having things you cant have. place your derision where it belong, on thier foolish parents.
Posted by: Null Actor
Just because someone drives a BMW at 18 doesn't mean they are dependant on handouts. You judge people by their appearance, when you know nothing about them or their life, or their relationship with their parents. Even if you think you do, you don't. You obviously aren't friends with these kind of people, so any opinion you've formed has been from what you've observed of them, and anything you observe when you are biased against something will be tinted red.
Put it this way: I now make more money than both of my parents combined. I'm living in a condo where the rent probably costs me over double what their house mortgage does. In all likelyhood, if I end up having children (if precludes any kind of reality), I'll have more than enough money to give them anything I want. And you know what? I will make sure they have everything I didn't have growing up in a small town where I helped my single parent mother collect bottles to return to the depot in order to supplement her paltry income from the home-daycare business she ran. They won't ever have to ask, because it will be there for them already.
So tell me, are my hypothetical children worthy of your spite? Sounds like the answer is already yes.
Posted by: Bobaroo
I live very comfortably on my town, but am in now way "rich" even though you could say I live in a "rich" town and county.
My parents give me minimal money and make me work for what I get. They will buy me clothes, food and other necessities. I got my first job at 14 and I am glad I did I now have money to spend if I want to and I do not have to try and ask my parents for it.
When I got my first car a few months ago my parents and I decided to split it, they were nice enough to say I did not have to pay anything for the car, but I still have to help them out on the insurance.
Both my parents work hard to support the family of 5, and I am grateful. My mom went back to school so she could become a teacher and better support our family.
There are plenty of kids in my town who's dad owns this and that company and they get whatever they want, but that does not really bother me. I am satisfied with my life and how my family is living.
Posted by: justinious
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Originally posted by justinious
Of course, not all well-to-do families are so superficial.
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Maybe I should have said irresponsible instead of superficial.
It's laudable to provide the best for your children. In fact, I'd consider it neglectful not to. The point I'm trying to make is there comes a point where providing for your children (good) becomes supporting them as adults (bad). An 18 year old with a BMW is fine with me. Admittedly I am jealous of him, but also I am content with what I had as an 18 yr. old.
In Jr. High School, I was not popular. I was not rich. However the majority of people who treated me the best were rich. I am not biased against upper income families as a group, I am biased against the families who take thier wealth for granted so much it skews thier view of the rest of us who are not wealthy.
(couldn't resist the color tags )
Posted by: scorpion_gold
well said
Posted by: AK47
*resists bragging about the 'stuff' my family has and all the stuff they've given me*
nobody really cares.
Posted by: Shalome
Get this straight: someone, somewhere, will always have more, less-deserved, flashier material possessions than you. You can choose to believe that you are a better person because of what you have, or that you have less, or that you worked harder for what you got, or that they are stuck-up spoiled brats because they take for granted opportunities you can only dream of. You can be bitter or self-righteous about it.
Or you can move on, realize that there are all different kinds of people in the world, that material possesions make you no less or more of any kind of person than any other thing... and get over yourself.
So what if they've got things you don't and they take it for granted? Status symbols are only appreciated by those who are not mature enough to realize that a good heart, interesting personality, and love to give is worth more than all the bling-bling on the planet. And don't tell me that the kids driving the BMWs don't have any of these things to contribute to society. Get to know some of 'em. The similarities in life experience and emotion may surprise you.
I'm speaking as someone who's danced across "both sides of the tracks" -- grew up poor with parents who came from nothing and fought and clawed their way to success, who were able to try to give me everything "they never had" by the time I was in my mid teens. Made some bad decisions in life in my late-teens-early-20s, been down-and-out, fought my own way back up, blah blah blah. Been looked down upon by the haves and have-nots, sometimes all at once. Blah blah blah.
All I'm saying is life goes, and life goes, and that's all there is. Focusing on the material is so petty. If others are petty enough to treat you bad for what you own at this stage in your life, then that's their problem, not yours.
Posted by: Gunslinger
I'll drink to that.
Posted by: AngstMerchant
Man, some of you guys seem kinda pissed. I'm glad that I'm not concerned with the distribution of physical wealth. I'm as happy as I could be in the situation that I'm in and I sincerely doubt that money or other tangible nouns would be able to change my state of happiness. I'm happy and don't go without food. My bank account just keeps getting larger and until I decided to move, I wasn't too sure what I was gonna do with it.
Why get pissed off about the activities of other people who aren't hurting you?? If they're shallow enough to buy things as 'status symbols', just ignore them. A status symbol only has value of other's revere it. Take that value away from them. Right now, you're playing up to that mentality. And if they're not buying all these things to impress others, well, I pity them. Because they will continue to obtain bigger and better things thus elevating their own person standard for happiness until it eventually reaches a high state without a congruent source of satisfaction. And they will likely never realize that there are somethings that money can't buy and opulence can't satisfy.
"A double bed and a stalwart lover, for sure.
These are the riches of the poor."
Posted by: AngstMerchant
. . . . . . . .maybe I should have read all of Shal's post before I posted, huh??
Posted by: Nfested
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Originally posted by Bobaroo330
O yea, that is exactly how your town is
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wtf u talking about? That's exactly how our county is. It's one of the top five richest counties in the nation! And in a state that a year ago surpassed Connecticut as the state with the highest median salary!
Spoiled Kids Everywhere! With Cellphones in hand.
Posted by: Xtren
N.W.A. Kid, think of the children in lesser fortunate countries who have to worry about finding clean water to drink, and then reconsider. If everyone of them were to get angry at the sight of a more fortunate person than there would be an awful lot of unhappy people out there. Even though you may not be able to afford a lot of things other people can't you have to understand that there are many people in this world who would give anything to have a life like yours. You should also consider that most of the rich kids had really hard-working parents, who probably devoted a lot of their life to education so that they could become successful and be able to afford things like expensive cars. These people most likely did not have a "life" when they were going to school, while they had to watch others spend their time hanging out with friends and getting all the girls.
Posted by: N.W.A_Kid
EXACTLY! There is a fine line between rich kids and parents, and spoiled rich kids. Not all rich kids are snobs, some do appreciate what they have. I am referring to those who think they are better than everyone else because they have lots of money, and won't give the time of day to associate with someone of lower class. I have rich friends who are the nicest people in the world, and would never treat somebody differently because they have everything handed to them.
I am not jealous of rich people, whether they are nice or rotten. I believe that you should not feel that you are superior or all great because you don't earn anything yourself. I highly appreciate what I have and what I had to work for. When I was younger my parents bought me stuff all the time, and to be honest I hated it. Once I started doing everything on my own I felt so much better.
I'm not putting anyone down who was born with money or who has lots of it, all I'm saying is those kids who appreciate nothing because their parents handed everything down to them need to realize that the real world isn't as easy as it seems. I am in no way attempting to put any single person down.
Posted by: Bobaroo
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Originally posted by Nfested
wtf u talking about? That's exactly how our county is. It's one of the top five richest counties in the nation! And in a state that a year ago surpassed Connecticut as the state with the highest median salary!
Spoiled Kids Everywhere! With Cellphones in hand.
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I was joking...That is why this was there.
It is pretty ridiculous that every kid has a cell phone. I mean if you drive you should have one but not those kids in elementary school.
Posted by: 9:35
N.W.A. Kid: Wern't you the one who said you wore bling bling jewlery to make others think you're rich? Yet, you're complaining because THEY are showing off?
Posted by: Xtren
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Originally posted by N.W.A_Kid
I'm not putting anyone down who was born with money or who has lots of it, all I'm saying is those kids who appreciate nothing because their parents handed everything down to them need to realize that the real world isn't as easy as it seems.
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Then on that part I have to agree with you. However, the problem is that we all take things for granted, whether we mean to or not. It's only normal for a person to complain once in a while. This happens because we sometimes get angry about things we shouldn't, and sometimes we fail to remember that the world does not revolve around ourselves. No person is perfect, and it is normal to feel sorry for yourself at times, or to even think of yourself as a better person than others in certain situations.
Posted by: Sasha
Stereotyping anyone based on sex, wealth, ect just blinds you to the reality of things but I guess it makes the world easier for some to get through life. Usually when I have a problem with someone's attitude or actions I find that if I give it some thought the real problem lies in my own attitudes and perceptions.
Posted by: N.W.A_Kid
I wear fake bling bling yes, but I am not some rich kid who takes things for granted. I don't take anything I have for granted. Like I said and I'll say it again,
NOT ALL RICH KIDS ARE STUCK UP SNOBS. SOME OF MY FRIENDS ARE RICH AND ARE THE NICEST PEOPLE. I'M COMPLAINING ABOUT THOSE WHO HAVE EVERYTHING HANDED DOWN TO THEM AND THEY THINK THEY'RE BETTER THAN EVERYONE ELSE, THOSE WHO WON'T TALK TO YOU OR HELP YOU OUT OR EVEN BE YOUR FRIEND BECAUSE YOU ARE POOR. THE ONLY REASON I FLAUNT ANYTHING IS BECAUSE I EARNED IT, AND I'M PROUD. BUT I DON'T ACT LIKE A DICK TO PEOPLE BECAUSE THEY ARE LESS FORTUNATE THAN I AM.
The caps do not mean I'm shouting, it's just bigger so everyone can see what I've said before. I know there are kids who have everything available to them who aren't snobby. Like Null Actor said, just because his could-be kids had everything handed down to them, doesn't mean they will be snobs. Just so long as kids know a true value of a dollar and learn to earn things for themselves, there is no problem. And my heart goes out to all of those who have to find clean water, steal clothes because it's a necessity, etc, but I feel no pity for rich/poor/middle class people who think they're better or too damn lazy to do anything themselves.
Posted by: 9:35
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Originally posted by N.W.A_Kid
I wear fake bling bling yes, but I am not some rich kid who takes things for granted. I don't take anything I have for granted.
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Hahaha
Posted by: TotalRecall
Why did you create this topic? Either you dislike richer people or you don't.
Who are you to judge how much someone appreciates a gift?
Posted by: Gunslinger
Best thread ever.
Posted by: redwench
whoever resurrected this thread should be killed slowly and painfully.
Posted by: Ion Silverbolt
You're cute when you talk about death you know.
Posted by: uh...ok
Let's talk about Ion flaunting his DigitablBlasphemy freebies on OTS as his avatars instead. 
-uh...ok
Posted by: redwench
Ion can flaunt anything he wants to. Flaunt it baby!
Posted by: uh...ok
o.O
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