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Overclocking a Pentium 4 1.7GHz
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Posted by: p3ngu!n
I would like to overclock my Pentium 4 1.7GHz to as far as it can go without overheating (and without using another fan or more cooling). What exactly do I need to do? I've been to many sites that tell me how far I can actually go on average but none actually tell me HOW...
 Help?
P.S. I don't feel like getting rants about why I got a Pentium 4, or that it's a piece of shit or whatnot. My father bought this computer, he didn't know what he was buying exactly and I didn't really know much about computers at the time either so... NOW I realize the mistake we made...  So... help me, please?
Posted by: p3ngu!n
/me is stumped...
Posted by: Null Actor
Overclocking automatically generates more heat. Overclocking potential can vary between processors, but doing so increases the likelyhood of both heat problems and CPU failures.
The easiest way to overclock is to just increase the speed of your front side bus, which can be done from the bios. Doing so can wreck ram, peripheral cards, and motherboards.
Posted by: p3ngu!n
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Originally posted by Null Actor
The easiest way to overclock is to just increase the speed of your front side bus, which can be done from the bios. Doing so can wreck ram, peripheral cards, and motherboards.
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Meh... anything less risky? 
Posted by: Null Actor
Nope.
Posted by: p3ngu!n
 Anyone else have anything to say? 
Posted by: Null Actor
Any overclocking is risky, and no overclocking at all should be done without a high performance cooling solution. You aren't going to hear anything different, because there is no other way of doing it. Overclocking is not just some magical way of getting a faster processor. It involves work, and very much increases your chance of killing your machine.
Posted by: Ion Silverbolt
That processor is far from outdated. If you're lagging in games, it's probably more related to either your video card or the amount of memory the system has.
Overclocking when you have good performance already is silly. It's only good for bragging rights to the few who care about overclocking.
Posted by: Bobaroo
OTS does not really support overclocking so I doubt you will get good responses here.
What type of computer do you have?
Wait for The_radarblip to come along, he will help you out.
Posted by: taco_fox
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Originally posted by Ion Silverbolt
Overclocking when you have good performance already is silly. It's only good for bragging rights to the few who care about overclocking.
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Yep, but also it's fun for those who care.
I know this thread will most likely get locked so..
First of all, Null is right. Any overclock will cause an increase in heat and extra cooling is necessary for any kind of significant gain. Second, yes, the only way to overclock Pentiums is to increase the FSB. However, while it is true that running PCI/AGP out of spec will damage cards, HDDs, and RAM, I doubt you'll get too high without extra cooling (don't quote me on this, as Pentiums aren't my strong point) and I sure don't recommend trying!
Most of all, overclocking with Pentiums depends greatly on what features and goodies your motherboard has. Intel made a great step forward for overclocking by adding a separate clock generator for PCI/AGP. This means you can increase the FSB all you want and keep the other clocks at a nice 33/66 as they should be. There's also something called dividers that kick in when you reach certain FSB speeds that reverts the PCI/AGP clock to normal (which is useful if you don't have the locking feature). These features are essential for stable overclocking.
There's nothing much more I can really say, mainly because I'm not a good teacher. I recommend that you head over to www.hardforums.com for your overclocking and cooling needs. Unfortunately, overclocking help isn't generally offered here, so they can help you out more than we can.
By the way, there's nothing wrong with the P4s when it comes to overclocking. It still all depends on luck.
Posted by: redwench
um, buying a p4 wasnt a mistake. nothing wrong with them. unless you have money to burn however, i wouldnt recommend overclocking it, since you dont want to increase your cooling.
why do you want to overclock a system that can run any application currently available anyway?
Posted by: Null Actor
Oh yeah, something about overclocking P4s... if they run too hot, they will actually slow themselves down. So if you overclock it... it might actually go slower unless you put the money in for better cooling.
Posted by: p3ngu!n
Thanks for the orientation...  Guess I won't be overclocking then...
Posted by: stinkybob
I think I lost interest in trying to overclock once processors hit the 1 gig mark....now we've got a 3 gig out?!? Who would have believed that was possible 2 or 3 years ago?
Posted by: taco_fox
Don't get discouraged! I read A LOT about hardware before I ever even attempted to overclock. When I did, I was very confident and the results were nothing to scoff at. Knowledge is your best tool, and perhaps when it's time for you to get a new computer, you'll be able to choose one that best suits your preferences (whether it be overclocking or otherwise).
And hey, the thread didn't get locked.. how about that?
Posted by: Canis Lupus
No specific overclocking tips were given, hence there was no need to lock the topic ... yet 
Posted by: steadyeddy
Overclocking is for fish.....Theres no need unless you can't help but boast tpo your teccy mates....
Leave it well alone....
Posted by: taco_fox
Fish? Was that an insult??
meh.. everyone has their own opinions about overclocking.
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