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What is the difference?
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Posted by: Fred
Between unbufferd and registerd SDRAM?
and whats better PC1600 or PC2100?
thx
Posted by: Null Actor
PC2100 is basically 266mhz DDR, and PC1600 is 200mhz DDR. Most DDR systems require DDR that matches the frontside bus, so if you have a 266mhz bus athlon, then you need PC2100.
Registered means it's a special kind of ram (usually 512megs or greater) which has special chips in it that allow it to be addressed correctly (because it's so big).
Buffered... I think that's just a really old buzzword, but anyone can feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.
Posted by: Fred
I am building my first PC and was wondering if its hard to install a fan on this?
http://avlogic.com/product.cgi?code=11123002
This would be my first time handling a CPU, and will it fit on this board?
http://www.asus.com/products/Mother...m266/index.html
thx again
Posted by: Null Actor
Yep, that CPU will work on that board.
It's always tough to install a fan if you haven't done it before... especially in the athlon's case, as you can easily crush the core if you aren't careful. My suggestion is that if you haven't done it before, and aren't willing to gamble your chip, then you should find someone experienced to do it.
Posted by: Fred
So for my first time I should go retail?
http://www.cbwnet.com/cgi-bin/Shopp...y=tbird1200_266
Windows 2000 or ME? I want this for a gaming PC and the dual boot stuff scares me.
Also what hard drive should I use and why? (a like to the drive would help)
I am trying to build a meen *ss sub $1000 system. I have a couple of moniters laying around and Mice, keybords, speakers, ect are of no matter. I just need the box and the guts.
thx for the help. 
Posted by: TotalRecall
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Windows 2000 or ME? I want this for a gaming PC and the dual boot stuff scares me.
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I've heard some not so good things about Windows ME. I'd stick to Windows 98 SE, especially if you already have a copy.
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Also what hard drive should I use and why? (a like to the drive would help)
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What do you mean? ATA or SCSI? SCSI is much more expensive, and ATA 100/66 will do fine. Maxtor and IBM make probably the most reliable drives.
Posted by: JANNA
winME works fine as long as u are using hardware that does not conflict with other hardware. do a clean install of winME it works great for gaming and multi tasks pretty decently for a desktop app. i use winME at home and i have Win2k on my laptop. if i wasnt a gamer at home i would have win2K there. i prefer winME to win98 just for the simple fact that it boots very fast heh
Posted by: Chako
Yeah, I got WinME to work with this new system I just built (Asus A7V133 with Thunderbird 1.2G). However, it would not work properly on my old motherboard and CPU (Epox MVP3-G5 with AMD K6-3 400). If your not sure, stick with win98 second edition or if you feel like a little risk taking, buy ME…just don’t ditch your 98 CD just yet.
As for cooling and worries about putting a heatsink/fan onto the CPU, read this document several times before you even attempt to put it on the processor. You can find it here under system cooling and air flow guidelines. The main danger is that if this is your first time, it is all too easy to crack the chip with today’s massive heatsink/fans. Not a good thing. I would recommend going with someone who is experience with em much as Nova previously said.
As for hard drives...well...use what you like. I tend towards the 5400RPM Fujitsu drives...I have used these for years with no problems. You could also go with the faster 7200 RPM drives, which is probably the route you may want to go. That decision is up to you. Just be sure you have extra cooling for the 7200RPM drives for they will run hotter then the slower ones.
Here is a web site that reviews hard drives. It is a good idea to look at more then one review site, but I give you this one as a good starting point of figuring out what is there. Click the "Review button". About half way, under "Reviewed Drives" you will see a pull down menu that list all the HDs reviewed there... You can find this here .
Posted by: Fred
Why is this a good board or is it not?
http://www.asus.com/products/Mother...m266/index.html
Is this a good board for my first costom built job? Is it hard one to set up? (i.e. to many features for a first timer?)
How bout this hard drive?
http://specs.emscomputing.com/cgi-b.../specs.asp?pid="407603"&sid="3b4238dd008c06b22740d8b0e20f0682"&price="$106.00"
I was also wondering how to make the links into word i.e.
U can find information by clicking here (when u click on here it will be a hyperlink sorry ............newbie
Posted by: Darky!
Thats a good board, yes.
Its recomended by amd, and it will support up to 1.5ghz+ so, if you ever upgrade processor speed, you shouldn't have to upgrade your motherboard, unless its a major jump, where the board wouldn't support it, or it would support it, but the motherboard itself would be a bottleneck for speed.
Posted by: Kdr Kane
Since you are looking around. Try a look at these three systems just to confuse you a bit.
3 DIY Systems
Posted by: Fred
On the mother board I was looking at, one of the specs said Ultra DMA/100 so I picked out this hard drive? What is UDMA/100 and did I pick the right one?
Posted by: Kdr Kane
That hard drive is great. Although I'm going to get an IBM 60GXP. It's a little bit of a newer model. And it looks like you might be able to get a better price here. I've never ordered from there, so I'm not sure what their service is like.
Yes. You want an ATA 100 drive. 7200 RPM is faster than the 5400 RPM. Since the slowest device on your system is going to be the hard drive, you want to get the fastest you can afford. The other important factor on these hard drives is the 2 MB RAM cache. This speeds them up much more than drives with 512 KB.
The main reasons I'm going with IBM on the hard drive is:
1. Quietness
2. Reliability
3. Speed
4. Warranty
You could get a 10,000 RPM or 15,000 RPM drive. But, they are very expensive, eat power and are noisier. It's usually cheaper to get you a good RAID controller with a huge cache. I'm not that worried about the speed, so I won't be getting one. It just adds a bit of complexity to the system and adds yet another driver.
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