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cat killer
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Posted by: redwench
this woman should be sharing a cell with that road rage dog killer.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/uk...000/1452666.stm
Posted by: Gerbilo
sheesh, some people are retarded.
Posted by: Ion Silverbolt
They need giant microwaves that people can fit in so we have somewhere to dispose of such ilk for good.
Posted by: JANNA
so how do u feel about the parents who forcibly dress their children for beauty contests then strangle em?? or about the guy in ??las vegas?? that dragged a kid out to the desert and sexually abused her then killed her and during the trial he apologized and the jury ended up giving him a light sentence?? what about oj?? or the menendez brothers who killed their parents with shotguns stopped to reload had to go back to the car for more ammo then continued shooting. one women on the jury voted not to convict since they were sorry and no longer had a mommy and daddy??
these are just a few of the things....
Posted by: redwench
well, janna, im not familiar with every case you cited, but the ones i do know of, i have a similar mindset on.
a) you convict on evidence, not emotional testimony. this goes both ways of course. the emotional stuff can come in at the sentencing phase.
b) if convicted of murder, you should receive a life sentence, no parole. unless overturned, of course.
c) if a person is not convicted, or charged, with a serious crime, the press should back off afterwards. this trial in the press is getting a little extreme.
d) prosecutors should charge for the actual crime, not over charge. if you kill someone unintentionally, its manslaughter, not murder.
thats my 2.5 cents.
btw, she admitted to killing the cat, and said she was sorry. they didnt even give her probation, just a "bad girl, dont do it again". i really think that some punishment was deserved here. i would prefer a jail sentence, but at least probation, or whatever they call it over there.
Posted by: JANNA
i guess what im really getting at is here in the US it seems everyone is so very wishy washy about certain things and not others. why is it seemingly ok for two people to shotgun murder their parents but its damn a lynchable offense to kill a dog?? where i used to live there were so many wild strays we had to shoot em on sight to keep from being overrun with em. i guess im just old fashioned when i think human life is more valuable than animals. but i do think she should have been punished since cruelty to animals is a crime but it doesnt equal murder
Posted by: Canis Lupus
No offense, but I think the US is the only country that will put firemen rescuing a kitten from a tree as front page news...
Still kinda surprises me how much animal rights are being upheld here to the point of absurdity ... back where I came from, if a dog got run down by a car, we just take it off the street and bury it - no lawsuits or investigations as to who did it...
Of course, contrary to popular belief about Filipinos, we don't eat them afterwards 
Posted by: Ion Silverbolt
LOL Laggy.
Well, I don't like seeing any cruel act of violence against any living thing. Man or animal.
I do agree that it's messed up that money can get someone off a murder charge but someone can get it for killing an animal.
I think it has to do with animal activists. Animal activists are downright zealots when it comes to defending animal rights. Probably because they are eccentric people to a degree. When someone gets killed, usually it will just be the persons family and friends that are creating a stir. Unless the crime is of a brutal nature. When an animal gets hurt, these people come out like some kind of hidden brigade of combative ninjas..hehe
Posted by: Null Actor
Cruelty is one thing, accidental death is another. If a pet gets run over by a car... whose fault is it? I'd blame it on the owner of the pet for letting it run in the road. A car doing 30mph is a lot less nimble than a dog in the middle of the street.
But cruelty should be punished... there is this one case going on here in Canada... two psychos video taped themselves skinning a live cat. They are being brought up on various charges of animal cruelty etc... but what really makes me angry, is that they claim they were doing it 'as art'.
The sad part is, as soon as some people heard that, they thought that perhaps the two shouldn't be charged with anything. What a load of bullshit.
"Mice. The only animal which, when killed in enough creative ways, results in a PhD" -- Douglas Adams.
Posted by: Chako
Much like the extreme anti-abortionist. These whacks think it is perfectly justifiable to kill doctors who perform abortions, because they don't agree with it and view the doctor as a murderer. Can I classify these with many animal activist...sure...some have even been known to kill people who wear fur coats. Sometimes I think society is getting skewed.
Posted by: Null Actor
'Getting' skewed? hehe
Posted by: redwench
ok, didnt the menendez brothers get a large, if not life sentence? how does that translate to ok? you always have some nutcase that will let people off, but most people wont for serious crimes.
and i didnt suggest frying her, just give her some punishment.
this woman has kids, and she gets drunk and nukes the family cat. then mentions it casually to her neighbor. is anyone else here disturbed that she still has custody of her kids?
i love animals, but i dont equate them with humans. but i also think that anyone who deliberately injures or kills an animal will also do it to a human, if they think they can get away with it. ive had a few animals get killed by cars over the years. i dont blame the drivers. (no im not irresponsible, they were barn cats, not indoor pets)
but animal cruelty, as opposed to neglect, should be considered a sign of a serious psychiatric or personality disorder, not brushed off as "its only an animal".
Posted by: JANNA
cruelty towards animals is a sign of distinct pathological disorder and almost all serial killers were animal abusers. it does play a factor in that.
Posted by: Chako
Hmmm...she is quoted as saying "I have always had strong feeling of love towards animals." Makes you wonder if she feels the same way towards her kids.
Posted by: -Memnoch-
"Cruelty towards animals is a sign of distinct pathological disorder and almost all serial killers were animal abusers. It does play a factor in that."
Very true and perhaps the actual concern beyond the punishment.
I noticed a story on the local news this afternoon that discussed an issue here in Florida. Recently many surfers and swimmers have been attacked by sharks off the beaches. A fairly standard happening considering the location. Tampa bay has the second largest population of sharks in the world. I myself have seen 16-foot hammerhead's (Bonnet Head) swimming 30 feet off the beach. It's not uncommon to see them near the shoreline just out of reach of swimmers during the day.
As the news reported this story of the most recent shark attack and the condition of the survivor, they had the shark expert from the local university on to explain that it's not a rouge shark and it's just a shark doing what sharks do. Bla Bla Bla
I fully understand this stuff. I don't go swimming. Tourists just don't get it.
As the news story finishes, they then mention that some guy in California caught some huge shark (Insert video of bloody dead shark here)
They explain that it took him 2 hours to land the beast and that it was part of the make a wish foundation benefit. The last line of the story stated that the shark caught what not known to ever attack humans and was a very passive breed.
The way may mind works; I see it as a karmic balancing act. You mess with us, we mess with you.
What part of taking the life of a docile shark is not cruel?
Look at it this way for just a second.
You’re at burger king. You start eating your double whopper with cheese. You take a couple bites and then a very painful tug causes you scream in pain. The more you try to pull away the more it hurts. You see this long think wire; it's dragging you around, out of the table, out in the parking lot. It hurts so bad but there’s not much you can do to get away.
For two hours you fight this invisible pulling wire as it drags you into the water. But you can't breath underwater. If you go under you will die. You fight with everything you have left. But it's no use.
The last thing you see after getting harpooned in the head is some drunken fisherman snapping a photo of you and the man who killed you.
And yet people call this a sport?
This is an extreme example that will not sit well with many folks I'm sure. But it exemplifies how we equate our desires and what we deem cruelty towards animals.
We can debate over the abuse of a cat or dog, but we miss the uncomfortable fact that we by design are a top predator. We by nature Kill to feed ourselves. We simply don’t eat cats or dogs for the most part in this country.
So to set lines of what’s cruel and what’s sport or what an indication of a distinct pathological disorder seems as if things could get blurry. We kill millions of cattle yearly as a nation. We shoot deer with high tech weapons. We shoot ducks and other wild fowl. Many times for no other reason other then for the sport.
So I see the ability for “common sense” to be subject to the environment. If you see your dad kick the dog to get it to obey and the dog obeys, then you at a young age learn that this is acceptable behavior. At the basis of your learning is “It’s ok to kick dogs that misbehave”
And this process of lies continues thru the rest of your life.
Ever order Veal at a high-end restaurant?
Do you have any idea how that veal got to your plate?
Yet you eat it.
We have cruelty down to a science.
The meat industry is the single greatest polluter of our waters and is directly responsible for 85 percent of soil erosion. America's meat addiction is steadily poisoning and depleting our land, water, and air.
The world's cattle alone consume a quantity of food equal to the caloric needs of 8.7 billion people -- more than the entire human population on Earth.
Wanna talk turkey?
Here watch this http://stream.realimpact.org/rihurl...meet_176x132.rm
The facts are we are cruel. We ok it by making excuses or simply not looking at the facts. And I think that’s what’s commonly called a sign of distinct pathological disorder.
One screwed up chick drunk on some crap booze and a bad day coupled with some bad wiring and she nukes a cat.
I remain unimpressed.
We got her beat by a longshot.
Posted by: Ion Silverbolt
The big difference there is dogs and cats are taken as pets. Anything taken as pets already implies responsibility for the pet. Killing for food is different and is a way of life for many animals as well as people. It's survival. I'm sure a rat doesn't enjoy being digested slowly by a snake but that doesn't make it bad. It's surviving. It's the way they evolved.
Sharks tend to pay a heavier price because they are a threat to our survival. Add that to the fact that we are not driven fully by instinct but by intellect and we take it one step farther to eliminate threats to ourselves.
In a nutshell, you might say we're racists when it comes to animals. We tend to treat animals who click with us better than the ones who pose a threat or don't respond to human behavior in a way that favors us.
My personal view on it is if you're catching fish for food, it's ok. If it's for sport, it's cruel and unnecessary. Society is screwed up by it's personal views however. I couldn't skin a dog for lunch and get away with it for example.
Posted by: redwench
ill agree with that. i do eat meat, but i try not to think about where it came from. but killing something youre going to eat is one thing. killing it to mount it on a wall is another.
this thing (woman) took the family pet and nuked it because she got pissed at something else. ive been bitten by fleas, its not a big deal. whats this woman going to do if the baby wont stop crying? she shouldnt be allowed to care for anything that cant fight back. i say give her a tiger to take care of. she can hit that if she gets mad, tho she might be in for a shock >
if an animal is in its natural habitat, doing a normal thing like a shark, then leave it alone . humans are too large for most creatures, including sharks to be interested in. most sharks are smaller than we are.
anyway, back to the wench. shes not given any sentence, not even anger management classes. and she has kids. call me a reactionary, but if you kill the family pet deliberately, you shouldnt retain custody of small children until youve straightened out. i cant imaging what the judge was thinking, banning her from owning pets for, 2 years was it? arrrrrrggggghhhhh
Posted by: AK47
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i guess what im really getting at is here in the US it seems everyone is so very wishy washy about certain things and not others. why is it seemingly ok for two people to shotgun murder their parents but its damn a lynchable offense to kill a dog?? where i used to live there were so many wild strays we had to shoot em on sight to keep from being overrun with em. i guess im just old fashioned when i think human life is more valuable than animals.
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I agree with that. Shit is outta whack. Human life is much more valuable than the life of an animal. To all those that think killing an animal is so bad- have you ever killed an insect? That should be just as bad as killing a dog or cat. You are killing a living creature. But no, it is ok to kill insects. Well thats fu*ked. Why in the hell would it be ok to kill one animal and not others. Just stupid.
When someone kills someone else's cat (not their own, someone else's) that is kinda bad because it belongs to someone else. The killer should be punnished as if they destroyed a piece of property. Nothing more- nothing less
And if someone kills one of their own pets, Who the hell cares!!! Its theirs!!!! Lay off! People kill their fish when they are too old and they dont want them any more, but that is no problem. Its only when you kill a dog or a cat- then you are in deep shit. Pretty dumb to me. Kill all the pets you want- just make sure they are yours. or else you should pay property damage.
Posted by: Chako
People do not think twice about killing insects because they are a lower order of life. It is much like killing plants, nobody ever thinks about killing plants, and yet they live just like everyone else. Humanity in general tends to ascertain rights to higher life forms. A prominent criteria is that of intelligence. Dogs and Cats are fairly intelligent…far more so then insects or plants. This is why people get attached to them. Because there are some interactions going on that you just cant get with a fish. This is why you don’t see people busting down your door if you kill a fish (although there was one humorous incident somewhere in the States where a gold fish owner was charged for leaving their fish without food for a few weeks, their being on vacation and some snoop saw the fish and called it in). Regardless, there are exceptions such as pigs. They are highly intelligent and yet are bred for pork and ham. Also exempt are most food animals that humans have domesticated for such purposes. Animal rights activist are fanatical and a little screwy in their priorities, and as such don’t recognize any dividing line….this makes them dangerous.
In France, during the 13th Century (probably still have these laws in their books), many animals were punished for breaking laws. It was nothing in those days to whip a cow for stealing, or killing a horse for murder. In general (by human standards anyhow), it is ok to kill/punish life forms that are perceived as a threat, a nuisance, or for food. Personally I only kill what I eat, or believe in taking what will nourish. If someone kills for pleasure, then there is something dreadfully wrong with that individual (trophy hunters, etc..). If someone kills by defending themselves, then that is ok and follows a basic rule of nature…..
Posted by: JANNA
well one of these days i intend to go hunt a moose. two reasons moose tastes pretty damn good and i need a moose head to put all my loose money in...
Posted by: Chako
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well one of these days i intend to go hunt a moose. two reasons moose tastes pretty damn good and i need a moose head to put all my loose money in...
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Have fun...I am not by any means against hunting...its the "lets go to Africa and hunt some trophies" kinda people I don't like.
Posted by: AK47
Forget that- lets go outside and hunt some dogs
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