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crickets & cockroaches, wtf?
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Posted by: Bix VT
woah.
*shudders*
I wonder what it's called when you have an irrational fear of crickets.
bleh.
Posted by: RAcastClarke
The fear is probably Jiminiphobia
Posted by: IceBreaker
I like grasshoppers & crickets. Yet these are closely related to...cockroaches (seems obvious when looking at them closely, actually).
And cockroaches...well...hell-spawned creatures...probably the ONLY multicellular thing on this planet that will always be stronger than man himself...Save Our Souls! 
Posted by: Bix VT
heh heh...too abd we could wipe all of them out if we wanted to...
Posted by: IceBreaker
Wipe out...all the cockroaches??? Sure, dream on...
...unless we set of all the thermonuclear warheads on the planet & destroyed ourselves, but even that wouldn't guarantee the total annhiliation of the bugs..
Posted by: Bunmiadefisayo
cockroaches are like humans; kill one and a whole bunch will come swarming out. Plus they are very adaptable and have been around for millions of year, probably before man himself (or herself)
Posted by: IceBreaker
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Originally posted by Bunmiadefisayo
cockroaches [...] are very adaptable
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Precisely - resistance is pointless...
Posted by: redwench
futile even?
Posted by: TheeMon
why dont you dip the crickets in cholocate and sell them :P
Posted by: IceBreaker
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Originally posted by TheeMon
why dont you dip the crickets in cholocate and sell them :P
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> Substance unknown - specify molecular structure
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Posted by: RAcastClarke
Hah-
try chocolate, Ice. I know you know it's that.
>punch user IceBreaker
>repeat command x400
>destroy him, myronbot
Posted by: IceBreaker
I know you know I know it's that
http://www.mega-content.de/smilies/...e_smilies/9.gif
> Analyzing RAcastclarke offensive capabilities
> Result: threat insignificant
> Threat ignored
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Posted by: Bix VT
> Analyzing IceBreaker smiley arsenal
> Result: fight one-sided
> Initiate protocol: reinforce allies
French style:
http://smilies.jeeptalk.org/contrib...lotine_anim.gif
Or, my personal favorite (or favourite to you, Ice)
http://instagiber.net/smiliesdotcom...xing_smiley.gif
Posted by: RAcastClarke
Analyze this!!
<insert offesnive .jpeg here directed at IceBreaker>
Heh, I can kick your anus at PSO or Perfect Dark, my friend. I challenge you.
Posted by: IceBreaker
What kind of "boxing" is that, Bix? Here, let me return the favour: http://forum.hardware.fr/images/perso/boxe.gif
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Originally posted by RAcastClarke
Analyze this!!
<insert offesnive .jpeg here directed at IceBreaker>
Heh, I can kick your anus at PSO or Perfect Dark, my friend. I challenge you.
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Ain't he cute... you'd better prepare the bandaids m8 - this could hurt - call your proctologist - hope you're insured http://www.fintoys.net/yabb/yabbima...es/devilish.gif (what's PSO anyways????)
Now to keep this from going OFFTOPIC 
I remember back in Germany - they also have cockroaches, nasty little critters, though much smaller (1/3 - 1/2 length) than the US or Aussie cockroach...but just as adaptive...
When moving into the new flat my parents bought a can of Raid insecticide - in the beginning, it was extremely swift-acting & efficient: one spray & the bugs would fall motionless within a second.
About 2 months later, they seemed to have become impervious to it 
Posted by: RAcastClarke
My bio teacher had cockraoches. Funny little things. They seem rugged. They do it a lot too. They had lotsa babies.
Posted by: Bix VT
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Originally posted by IceBreaker
What kind of "boxing" is that, Bix?
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It's not boxing...just mild harrasment. If you want to have a blood battle we can, I have more than enough...
Posted by: RAcastClarke
Come on, you two. You both have the best smilies. That's all. You're equals. Ice may have small ones that are good, but Bix has the kickass giant ones, like the machine gun one. That thing is the greatest.Of course, I am so easily amused, I laugh my ass off when I see smilies in any form. They're so funny to me...
Bwaha
Posted by: IceBreaker
Bix> Share your smileys damnit!
AND DON'T GO OFFTOPIC GRR! I DON'T WANT IT CLOSED AGAIN
So, you were about to say something about cockroaches (any cockroach smiley btw? )
We found the "solution" to our cockroach problem - keep changing the insecticide brand, regularly. This is the only insect I've heard of with such adaptive capabilities. That explains why all research into roach control (chemical & EVEN biological) has failed sor far, AFAIK 
Posted by: Bix VT
That's it, I'm starting a smiley thread.
Most of the cockroaches I have encountered have been about 1 inch long a reletively thin...but VERY fast. I remember hearing somewhere that they run at a scale speed of 250mph. 
Posted by: RAcastClarke
What if you go through all the kinds of inseticide out there? Then what? You'll have uber cockroaches on your hand, and those are bad. Just stomp 'em.
Posted by: IceBreaker
I don't know - we had left the flat by then. I suppose even a cockroach can't adapt to ALL insecticides - after 10 or more chemicals, it may lose its resistance to the very first compound used. But I'm not sure http://forum.hardware.fr/images/perso/spamafote.gif
Posted by: Bix VT
But are there more than 10 kinds of insecticide that will kill them? I can only think of 3 brands off the top of my head...
You could always shoot em...
Posted by: IceBreaker
Bah, more than 3 brands I'm sure - and the compounds can also vary within the same brand...
...one thing's for sure, the roaches haven't yet adapted to the good ole 'stomp' or 'smash' method hehe..
Posted by: Bix VT
That much is true. Until they can resist smashing with a super-hard shell, we will still be the dominant species 
Posted by: IceBreaker
Until the day they develop armor-plating over their bodies (you never know, heh) - then we're doomed
Posted by: Bix VT
Well, by that time I'm sure we'll have some sort of heat/disentigration ray that will fry them alive and make them crunchy and good for feeding to our lively little pet albino crocodiles.
Posted by: IceBreaker
Even radiation doesn't kill them - like scorpio, it would take around 1000 times the dose lethal to a human, to affect a cockroach - I read that once, must have been 9 years ago. brr...
Posted by: Bix VT
But I'm not talking about radiation from a bomb...stick a roach in a microwave, trust me, radiation kills them.
Posted by: IceBreaker
Microwave eh? Now that got me thinking...can they be eaten? (you could try first & tell us about it )
Posted by: Bix VT
http://smilies.jeeptalk.org/otn/other/pukeface.gif
No thanks m8.
Posted by: IceBreaker
C'mon - think of it as a variant of cornflakes, with crunchy cockroaches - I don't know, "kellogs cockflakes"? http://forum.hardware.fr/images/perso/ddr555.gif
I once read an article about orang-utans, those kept in the zoos...will eat just about any insect they kill EXCEPT for cockroaches - they will kill them, but not eat them. Strange...
Posted by: Bix VT
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Originally posted by IceBreaker
"kellogs cockflakes"?
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http://smilies.jeeptalk.org/cwm/3dlil/eek13.gif That could have an alternate meaning.
Posted by: Bunmiadefisayo
Kelloggs Cockflakes 
Bix has a point there
Posted by: IceBreaker
Damn, hadn't thought of that...
(but you guys have dirty minds http://forum.hardware.fr/images/perso/ripeer.gif)
Btw I found out that some reptiles & amphibians do eat cockroaches (amongst other things). Quite comforting in a way, perhaps introducing a predator that feeds on these things would be an efficient alternative to using chemicals..
Posted by: redwench
id go with the alternate meaning myself.
the hormonal stuff they use on roaches seems to work best.
Posted by: Bix VT
hmm...do roaches live in colonies like ants? If they do then we could always use some sort of poison and introduce it into the nest...
Posted by: redwench
thats how they treat roaches bix. no one uses the spray....
Posted by: IceBreaker
That's only efficient in the short term anyways - they adapt to the poisons, don't forget, they adapt...
In some tropical areas where cockroach infestation is endemic, control them is impossible
Redwench> what was that about using hormones to kill cockroaches?!?
Posted by: Bix VT
red: the type of poison I was talking about is the "trojan horse" method that they use with ants. Give them something sweet that's also poison and let them take it back to feed the hive.
Do they have those for roaches? (I don't know, we've never had any roach problems before)
Posted by: IceBreaker
Yes they do - bug eats the poison, brings it back to the hive, infects other bugs (roaches are cannibals and that also helps). But for ANY poison to work on them, the operation must be swift, so that it will kill the entire "colony" BEFORE they are given the time to adapt..
Posted by: redwench
yes bix. like i said, no one uses that spray crap, it really doesnt work worth a shit. baits have been around for a good 15 years now.
Posted by: Bunmiadefisayo
I am confused though, shouldnt it take thousands of years of evolution before raoches can adapt to a particular poison or method of exterminatio? Its really wierd how the dirty little buggers seem to always adapt to our poisons and such.
Posted by: IceBreaker
Spray-poisons, bait-poisons, biological "weaponry", they soon become impervious to it all, alas It's like they have their own "scientists" in their colonies, who develop the antidotes against whatever is thrown at them
Introducing a predator into their habitat, as I already pointed out, might well be our only resort..
Posted by: Bunmiadefisayo
Heck Ice, they might even find a way of converting teh predator and making it beleive it was a cockroach
Posted by: IceBreaker
A form of assimilation http://forum.presence-pc.com/images/perso/alkpone.gif
Posted by: TheeMon
yeay yall got your own thread! im not even going to begin in this thread :P
Posted by: armystud0911
well first of all I can attest first hand that insects of any kind are NOT good to eat when microwaved! Secondly, all you guys who are talking about armor plating, well sheesh they already have armor! Its impossible to kill those things on the carpet and if you get them on pavement, they collapse with a very satisfying "crunch". I have never had them in my house before simply because they haven't reached us yet, but I have definitly experianced them. My brother and his wife went to school in Texas and whenever we visited them, one of their graces would pay us a visit. Once I woke up to one crawling inside my shirt he was only about 1-1/2 inches long though, the really bad experiance award goes to my brother. He was driving on the interstate, (anyone who has been to Dallas knows what I am talking about!) when a roach that was nearly 3 inches long appeared on the dashboard. He then made his cautious journey over to the steering wheel, stopping every so often to check himself. All the while, my brother is about to merge with traffic ahead, suddenly the roach climbed onto the steering wheel and promptly fell on his lap. My brother quickly flicked him off and smashed him on the floor, (carpet btw). A few minutes later, he looked down to see that what he thought was the carcass, was now missing. The next minute, he felt it tickling against his ear, when he tried to swipe it the roach darted to the other side and proceeded to climb down my brothers chest. Well by this time he had had enough, in an act of pure rage my brother swiped off his chest, (pulling two legs off in the process) and hurled it onto the floor where he used his foot to puree what was left of that spawn of beelzibub.
Posted by: IceBreaker
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Originally posted by armystud0911
when a roach that was nearly 3 inches long appeared on the
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Um...you meant 3 centimeters, right? http://forum.hardware.fr/images/hum.gif
Posted by: Bunmiadefisayo
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<gulps> I certainly hope so! Soon as we start seeing 3-inch long roaches, i am moving to the Moon.
Posted by: Canis Lupus
bleh, 3-inch roaches ... I've seen bigger in my college dormitory years ago
Posted by: IceBreaker
But we were talking about real-life roaches http://forum.hardware.fr/images/redface.gif
Posted by: Canis Lupus
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Oh, in that case, lemme correct myself then -
I've seen bigger real-life roaches in my college dormitory years ago 
I'm not talking about people... were you?
Posted by: Bunmiadefisayo
Do roaches even have a central nest like ants? If they do they probably have a queen. Perhaps we could send an ambassador to her and urge her to quit pestering humankind eh?
BTW i havent seen one roach ever since i got to the dormitories!
Posted by: IceBreaker
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Originally posted by Canis Lupus
I'm not talking about people... were you?
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Rather see a 3-inch human than a 3-inch roach http://forum.hardware.fr/images/perso/ooooo.gif
The world's largest cockroach, Blaberus giganteus, can reach 8.8 cm (a little over 3 inches) in length but is only found in the West Indies, Panama & South America. It is not adapted to continental climates & is too temperature-dependant to survive US winters (even in Florida) which is why it is not found in the US: http://www.key-net.net/users/swb/pet_arthropod/B1.jpg
Cute isn't it?
The American Cockroach (Periplaneta americana) on the other hand rarely reaches 1.5 inches so I'm curious to know where that roach of yours could came from http://www.opentechsupport.net/foru...icons/icon5.gif
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Originally posted by Burkinafaso
Do roaches even have a central nest like ants?
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No
Posted by: armystud0911
I dunno where it came from but I measured its body next to my thumb and it was a little longer. (and it definitely was a cockroach too)
BTW- yes you are correct that they don't have "nests" per say but they tend to infest small areas together. So it may be possible to send ambassadors to the various abodes, but I doubt that the roaches will reason with us.
Posted by: Canis Lupus
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Originally posted by IceBreaker
The world's largest cockroach, Blaberus giganteus, can reach 8.8 cm (a little over 3 inches) in length but is only found in the West Indies, Panama & South America. It is not adapted to continental climates & is too temperature-dependant to survive US winters
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Blaberus giganteus is ONE of the world's largest cockroaches, and is the largest of its genus - congrats for misquoting the facts ... did you get it here?
http://www.key-net.net/users/swb/pet_arthropod/RCH.htm
Might wanna read it again and quote it properly
Oh, links for ya:
http://www.uen.org/utahlink/activit...ctivity_id=2025
The world's largest recorded cockroach is six inches long with a one-foot wingspan - you got one thing right - it lives in South America
http://yucky.kids.discovery.com/nof...s/pg000097.html
Oh, and who said I went to college in the United States? Let's just say I went to college in a tropical country ... want more hints?
Try again, mis(ter) information
Posted by: Canis Lupus
But wait, check this out:
http://www.geocities.com/mikey_wbt/...ld_records.html
Cockroach (Largest)
Rita Carlson, of Pasadena, CA, claims the record for having raised the world's largest cockroach. Her record-setting roach is over a foot long and weighs close to two pounds (1992). "Plenty of protein," Rita told us, "and plenty of good, natural vitamins helped to make this roach into a champion. You should have seen it when I first found it crawling around my kitchen."
Prolly a tall tale though - don't you think?
Posted by: IceBreaker
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Obviously I got it there - you copied the image location, bravo http://forum.presence-pc.com/images/perso/d4w4.gif
My point was, roaches in the US are nowhere near that size, which brings us to:
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Originally posted by Canis Lupus
Oh, and who said I went to college in the United States?
Try again, mis(ter) information
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Thx for the links btw http://forum.hardware.fr/images/perso/kryten.gif
Actually, my prev. post was just a roundabout way of finding out where you had been to college, but apparently you're tight-lipped about it so I'll ask you directly this time:
In WHICH COUNTRY was it that you saw that cockroach?
Posted by: Canis Lupus
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Uhm, no ... I typed Blaberus giganteus on google ... handy tool that
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Originally posted by IceBreaker
My point was, roaches in the US are nowhere near that size, which brings us to:
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Too bad your attempts to discredit me via location didn't work ... better luck next time
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Originally posted by IceBreaker
Actually, my prev. post was just a roundabout way of finding out where you had been to college, but apparently you're tight-lipped about it so I'll ask you directly this time:
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Yeah, sure, whatever ... nice attempt at saving face tho...ask around, you may just get the answer... I'm sure many people know anyway...
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y'know, now that I think about it, that's probably just a mutated one (reference slugs topic) ...
Anyway:
http://www.pestcontrolcanada.com/cockroaches.htm
Megaloblatta blaberoides grows to about 4 inches... it also said a "hissing cockroach" in Madagascar is "one" of the largest ... didn't specify what size, but I may be wrong
okay, I'll stop
Posted by: IceBreaker
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Originally posted by Canis Lupus
Yeah, sure, whatever ... nice attempt at saving face tho...
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No no honestly I wanted to know where you saw that roach :
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Originally posted by Canis Lupus
ask around, you may just get the answer... I'm sure many people know anyway...
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OK top secret info, got it http://forum.hardware.fr/images/halalala.gif
=> BTW you quoted:
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http://forum.hardware.fr/images/perso/wam.gif But I never said that..
Posted by: redwench
well, since laggy apparently wants to keep it a secret, i wont tell. it wasnt madagascar 
the hissers are kept a lot as pets, and as specimens. my university bio dept kept a bunch on display in the hallway. getting a 3 inch cockroach in minnesota in winter would be quite a task, short of buying one. finding one in texas wouldnt be terribly difficult, its warm enough in most places there for any cockroach to survive for quite a while outside.
Posted by: Bix VT
I can personally attest to big roaches in the great(est) state of Texas...they can get to 3 inches no problem. Ever pulled up the lid to your sprinkler system and had 10-15 of that size resting in there? Not a fun thing to deal with...
Posted by: Bunmiadefisayo
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Originally posted by Bix VT
I can personally attest to big roaches in the great(est) state of Texas...they can get to 3 inches no problem. Ever pulled up the lid to your sprinkler system and had 10-15 of that size resting in there? Not a fun thing to deal with...
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Shit! I would go into a coma right away and not awaken till doctors knew how to erase certain portions of memory.
Armystud- you must have some big freakin' hands for that roach to be just a "little" longer than your thumb
DISCLAIMER- im going a little off-topic here; that geocities link has to be the most disgusting set of world records i have EVER sen or read anywhere. I mean c'mon...
Posted by: IceBreaker
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Originally posted by redwench
well, since laggy apparently wants to keep it a secret, i wont tell. it wasnt madagascar
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Oh. I wonder where it was, then.. http://forum.presence-pc.com/images...20le%20loup.gif
Are there cockroaches without wings? Or is it only the female that has no wings regardless of the species? I know that some types of wingless roaches can grow quite big - but it's the winged ones that I hate...
Posted by: IceBreaker
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Originally posted by Bunmiadefisayo
Shit! I would go into a coma right away and not awaken till doctors knew how to erase certain portions of memory.
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Men wearing black suits & sunglasses - they can handle that with a red flashlight. And they also fight cockroaches. BIG ones http://forum.msi.com.tw/images/msi/icons/icon7.gif
Posted by: RAcastClarke
Hah, what an interesting discussion. Now I'm viewing cockraoches in a different light...that is, if they don't all scatter when I view it...
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