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The FBI must be stopped

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Posted by: Null Actor

Why don't you americans do your national duty and protect your rights, and destroy the FBI. Because if you don't, soon enough everyone using a computer who is computer literate is going to end up in jail.
http://www.linuxfreak.org/post.php/08/17/2001/134.html

I can't believe so much shit is happening like this. WTF. The guy tries to help, and the FBI arrests him. You guys need to reign in the FBI. Call your senators and governors and tell them what you think. This is getting out of control, and americans are the only ones that can do anything about it.

Well, now I know what to do if I ever run across a case like this:

Anonymously post the website and security hole to a public newsgroup. Sure, the site might actually get hacked, destroyed, and the business might lose thousands of dollars or more, but at least if I do it anonymously there is no chance of me being arrested for trying to help.



Posted by: CETORT

now this is some BS, and right here in my own backyard



Posted by: Kdr Kane

Brian West seems to have done some things that were wrong.

He tried to get the newspaper to switch to his company as the hosting service by showing holes in the other provider's security.

He hacked, dozens of times, from several computers to get into their system files.

He used, without authorization, another person's ID and password, who was hired by the newspaper in order to facilitate his entry into their system files.

His eagerness to be LEET, show-off and bad-mouth his competitors got the better of him. He doesn't need to be in jail. But, he needs to learn to keep his mouth shut.

His intrusion was more than simply finding a hole in the security and reporting it. The story as posted is one-sided.



Posted by: CETORT

way to go Nova ... give me bad info



Posted by: Null Actor

Where is your info from Kdr Kane?



Posted by: Kdr Kane

From the Search Warrant mostly. It's also an interesting read if you follow all of the posts on that site.

I'm not on the FBI's side at all. I just don't believe everything I read. There is always another side. I was actually surprised that the warrant didn't force confiscation of the computers. They were to minimize impact on the company's customer base.

It's a good story. I will always try to remember not to volunteer a lot of information to someone I don't know.



Posted by: Chako

I agree with Kane. When I first read the main story, I was angy and a little shocked. However, when I went to the hidden link (They don't even have it clickable for crying out loud, or bold to bring attention to it), I got the other story. Looks like West was a bad boy.



Posted by: Null Actor

I just read the whole search warrant, start to finish, and it doesn't sound to me like anything other than a guy trying to be helpful. The fact that he was actively searching for pages that had this problem, and then reporting them to the people who ran them, just shows that he was actively trying to be helpful.



Posted by: Kdr Kane

I'm only trying to save someone here the same headache Brian West gave himself.

The bank wasn't happy with what he did long before this happened. He said so himself. So, what does he do? He does the same thing with another business. He isn't even charged with anything to do with the bank.

The bank didn't turn him over to the FBI. The newspaper turned him over. He told the newspaper about the bank himself. He didn't learn from his mistake. His "total knowledge of all that is computers" got the better of him. Nobody could tell him different.

This attitude has burned and put many a teenager in jail.



 
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