|
|
 |
|
|
Pages: 1
To All Windows 98 SE users - KERNELL (the weak win core)
(Click here to view the original thread with full colors/images)
Posted by: Mancini
Now for those who don't know Kernell is the core of windows os ..also of linux
but dont get them mixed up ..the ony thing they have in common is that they share the same name and they both have the role to constituite the interface between the hardware and software in an computer
The windows one is particulary buggy as it depends of an lot of modules and sockets and it has been constantly "improved" by MS to accomodate the new 32 bit processes and algorithms making it extremely complicated and unreliable (shitty).
For example the win 98 kernell is simpler and more stabile than the win 2000/ME (not win2K) but just as long as it runs its own and 3-rdparty software that was made before 1999 .....but as soon as you put software made after 1999 of an win98 box it will **** it up as the new soft it dont work like it says ..it dont change the old kernell and modules but it only tries to patch an interfrace between the old Kernell and the new software.
So for you all saying and thinking that WIN 98 SE is an stable os and its great if u update it with all the patches, IE6, WINSOCK, ASPI , DIRECTX, ACTIVEX and so on U ARE ****ING WRONG !
Windows ME allthought has idiot memory managing ,buggy disk allocations and shit IT BENNEFITS af an much more advanced and more compatible KERNELL than win98 from the 2000 class althought different to the 2K one so USE IT
PATCHING AN WIN98 BOX WILL GET YOU NOWHERE
GET WINME OR BETTER WIN2K !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
(the above language may appear offensive to some and i appologize for that )
Posted by: Kdr Kane
Total flame.
Posted by: Ion Silverbolt
*Moved to Rants and Raves Forum*
Posted by: redwench
gee. so the 2001 games i run on my 98se without problems are a figment of my imagination?
as long as 98 is stable and compatable i will continue to use it as my os.
Posted by: Mancini
stupid me to belive that an tech forum would know technical things ...guess not ...ahame on u ..they guys at 32bit.com understood the nuance of topic ..ah and mr admin guy ...this is not an rant u muistule
and psssss... redwench "gee. so the 2001 games i run on my 98se without problems are a figment of my imagination?" ..u dont have no ideea what an kernel really is so dont bother posting
Posted by: Canis Lupus
 Quote:
Originally posted by Mancini
stupid me to belive that an tech forum would know technical things ...guess not ...ahame on u ..they guys at 32bit.com understood the nuance of topic ..ah and mr admin guy ...this is not an rant u muistule
|
Hmmm, what's a muistule? 
And FYI, I wasn't the one who moved the topic, one of my moderators did ... he felt you were ranting, so he moved it accordingly. Although that doesn't mean I'll move it back
And since we're already in the Rants/Raves forum, here's my two cents:
WinME is garbage to me. Buggy, braindead, ugly and just plain terrible when I used it. I had better results with Win98SE. And yeah, I use Win2K. Why use WinME if you have Win2K? Advanced kernel means little if it can't carry out stable processes. WinME has a more compatible kernel you say? More compatible to what?
If you're gonna upgrade from Win98, don't go half-baked by going to WinME ... get Win2K. Some people may like WinME, but I don't.
Quote:
|
Windows ME allthought has idiot memory managing ,buggy disk allocations and shit IT BENNEFITS af an much more advanced and more compatible KERNELL than win98
|
Hehehe, I think that statement just contradicted itself... and it's spelled KERNEL, not KERNELL 
Posted by: Null Actor
Quote:
Originally posted by Mancini
stupid me to belive that an tech forum would know technical things ...guess not ...ahame on u ..they guys at 32bit.com understood the nuance of topic ..ah and mr admin guy ...this is not an rant u muistule
and psssss... redwench "gee. so the 2001 games i run on my 98se without problems are a figment of my imagination?" ..u dont have no ideea what an kernel really is so dont bother posting
|
One more personal attack and you get suspended from the forums.
Oh, and FYI, WinME does NOT use the windows 2000 kernel, or anything even remotely resembling it. WinME uses an improved win9x kernel. In fact, there is very little difference between the win98 and winME kernels. Most of the changes are superficial.
Posted by: redwench
Quote:
|
.....but as soon as you put software made after 1999 of an win98 box it will **** it up as the new soft it dont work like it says ..
|
i think that is what you said, correct? so 2001 software, ie games, should crash my horrible, outdated 98se, yes?
and yet, it doesnt, in general. when i start having real probs, i will happily upgrade to 2k. i just see no point in doing so when i have a stable system. im not running a server, after all.
Posted by: Digitalphatman
Wow, I thought WinME couldn't install betwork cards. had horrible memory handleing, crashed every 10 mins, turned on even more stupid functions, etc.
Guess i am Just some idiot who doesn't know much, who to qoute you "Is not technical enough". Sheesh
Posted by: Digitalphatman
And winMe is no where near being what WIN2k is, although i prolly be stuck using WIN98 the rest of my life.
Posted by: Kdr Kane
Mancini,
I called it a flame right off because you didn't have any factual information to back up your rant (claims).
It sounded like you heard the word "kernel" for the first time this week and decided you were going to "educate" everyone here.
When you decide to push your point with foul language, it means you got no point.
As for the technical points, I can't be bothered with your education because you don't seem very receptive.
Posted by: TotalRecall
Loser. 
Posted by: Kdr Kane
Hey TR!
We may be in the Rants and Raves, but you can't call me a loser!
Posted by: Ion Silverbolt
I thought he was ranting becuse of the language. Plus I didn't understand one thing he said.
I want one of those stabile systems..hehe
Posted by: JANNA
this is a perfect example of someone that has no clue about what they speak. linux is stable as long as u dont push it to run things like windows apps heh. windows is stable long as u dont push it to run linux apps. windows is used because it has the widest support it runs the most software and is the easiest OS for the average person to use. it doesnt take a phd to run winme. i install winme and win98 on the comps here at work there are only two NT machines the server and my laptop. i use winME at home because i like all the superficial things MS added to the 98 to make WinME. i like running all the latest software without having to dig up a emulator hence i dont use linux. the only time i have a kernel error on windows machines here is when one has a HD that is dying. im sorry but this persons entire post is nothing but a misinformed rant. but i guess being the head of an IT dept means crap and all the comps i have that run post 1999 stuff sans problems is pure fiction and my 99% up time on the network is pure illusion....
Posted by: SiliconJesus
???? And you guys replied to this??
Posted by: TotalRecall
Hehe, Kane...was for Mancini, not you.
Posted by: Kdr Kane
I'm still trying to figure out what muistule is supposed to mean.
Posted by: AK47
ditto.
Posted by: Shalome
...
Posted by: Shalome
And now it's time for... ASK A FORMER ENGLISH MAJOR!!!
Here's the original post in this thread, after it's been through some basic editing...
Posted by: Outlaw
LOL!
Posted by: Chako
Shalome...you forgot one.
4th paragraph... "....That Win 98 SE is an stable os....." I think it should be "a".
Thanks for bringing a smile this day, much appreciated. 
Posted by: Kdr Kane
Ok. Shalome wins!
Posted by: Mancini
Canis Lupus :
1-when i meant "mr. admin guy" i was refering to the one that moved the topic
2-"muistule" is an european slang term
2-win me has more compatible kernel and drivers and libraries with after 1999 software
3-"Hehehe, I think that statement just contradicted itself" no it does not
im stating that it has an unstabile shell but has a compatible core
Nova Z : if u would take time to analize windows modules u would findo out that winME kernel is an 2000 class one not 98
JANNA : u have no clue what you are speaking about (wanna join me in an contest for writing an virtual device driver or windows socket manager ?)
Kdr Kane read below :
Shalome : pardon my poor spelling but it gets kinda difficult when russian is your native language
before flaming me i would want to see how good u write in russian ? please
all of u : this point about the kernel that i have posted (allthought poor spelled and expressed) was the result of our programing crew analize on making an combination of the win98 shell and winXP kernell and drivers and i have lots to back it up...just ask
i forgot to mention that more often than not, programs crash because of errors in the program itself, not necessarily Windows. Using undefined pointers, overstepping array bounds, memory leaks, all of these contribute to program crashes.
The problem with Windows is that it has poor (read: no) memory protection. It will cheerfully allow a poorly coded program to overwrite the memory used to hold vital Windows components, such as kernel32.dll. That is what makes *nix operating systems more stable than Windows operating systems. *nix OSes have memory protection. That, and the applications written for *nix OSes are typically designed for maximum uptime, as oppsed to getting it out quicker and prettier.
[Edited By Memnoch]
Admin's Note: Mancini, we appreciate your attempts in showing off whatever "knowledge" you may have, but please be more accurate next time. You have posted exploits for Windows servers/systems (which Memnoch edited). Unfortunately, our server is using Linux, so almost all the "high risk" exploits you detailed will not work. So what was the point of that post? Next time, please make sure you know what you're talking about before you post anything. We hate hacker wannabe's here, especially those who don't know shit. Thanks.
- Canis Lupus
Posted by: Kdr Kane
Mancini,
We are not in the habit of poking fun at people when English is not their native language. You never listed your location and your name does not disclose your nationalilty.
I still fail to see what you were trying to do. That was not the way to recommend that people should upgrade to Windows ME.
Granted Windows has always been known to have problems. And we appreciate that you are looking at it from a one-sided view at the device driver and kernel level. But, Windows is required to play most good games out there. It's not going to change soon.
I would never recommend that a user upgrade to Windows ME because the kernel is more friendly or more like Windows 2000. I would recommend they change for the user interface or compatibility issues. However, those don't seem to be so significant when you consider the cost and trouble.
It sounds like you were on a rant because you were upset that your coding had to work differently to support different operating systems. No kidding. It's been that way for years. Get over it.
Posted by: Shalome
Mancini -
Just so you know, that was meant to be a joke, not a flame, really. Also, if I had known that Russian was your native language, I wouldn't have made fun of your spelling and grammar. I, unfortunately, do not speak Russian. I DO speak English, French, and some Spanish, though!
I'd also like to point out that you began by flaming this group, saying that we obviously didn't know anything. Well, many of us DO know quite a bit about computer systems. Many of us, myself included, work with computer systems, both hardware AND software (which includes operating systems). A lot of people here have more technical knowledge than you're giving us credit for.
You, on the other hand, jump onto these boards as a newbie and immediately start swearing at us and telling us that we are idiots. What are we supposed to think of you? I'd say you began your stay here as flame-bate, and you're getting what you deserve at the moment. If you decide to stick around here, tone down the language and try to speak like an intelligent person who has SOME respect for the people he's talking to.
Until you do that, I have the feeling that everyone here will continue to make fun of you, argue with you, and flame you.
-Shalome
Posted by: -Memnoch-
And on that note this thread is closed.
|
|
|
|
|
