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Which one is john kerry?
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Posted by: Ocean
im finding this pic all over the web.
does this have any basis in fact?
Posted by: 9:35
That image is all over the web without anyone pointing out which one is him? I wouldn't worry about it much.
Posted by: Bishop
So a bunch of soldiers got drunk and made a parody... big deal.
Posted by: redwench
as kerry is well known for being a war protester after he returned from vietnam, i dont see why that picture is remotely interesting.
Posted by: Ocean
upon more research it seems it is a picture from the cover of a book by john kerry. also clarification is saying that that the upside down flag means distress, not disgracing.
Posted by: INeedHelp
an upside down flag is the international signal for distress
"The son of Eddie Rickenbacker, the great World War I ace, William F. Rickenbacker, said in response the Supreme Court’s decision to legalize flag burning, “I’m flying my flag at full mast, but upside down, in the international signal of distress. A flag that has been abandoned by its own country is certainly in distress, and I intend to fly mine upside down until the Court turns right side up”."
--- http://www.cfa-inc.org/?section=abo...bout_believe_04
Posted by: Atlas4
Some guy got arrested way back like 2 years ago for flying his U.S. Flag upside down. Apparently some people took(take) it as protest.
Posted by: Canis Lupus
it's a picture being spread by someone who professes ignorance calling upon the support of other ignorant people - which is a lot 
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it's a picture being spread by someone who professes ignorance calling upon the support of other ignorant people - which is a lot |
okay the free ride is up buddy i dont like your negative portrayal of the american people 
Posted by: Canis Lupus
You're entitled to your opinion, as I am with mine ... that's what America is all about
Posted by: SKYHN
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it's a picture being spread by someone who professes ignorance calling upon the support of other ignorant people - which is a lot |
AKA Bush 2004 Votes 
Posted by: marioze53
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Some guy got arrested way back like 2 years ago for flying his U.S. Flag upside down. Apparently some people took(take) it as protest.
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The guy got arrested? wow... Ive heard that if an american flag touches the ground that it must be burned by law. How ironic.
Posted by: redwench
eh, he had to have been doing something else to get arrested. there is no law about anything to do with the flag, other than safety issues.
Posted by: Erekose
aye, red, that is correct. if i remember correctly, the flag only prohibited from being burned or in other ways "disgraced" if it is in an attempt to cause a commotion. as to the flag having to be burned if it ever touches the ground, that is dictated by etiquette (though it is not widely taught outside of the military and followed by even fewer) not law. it's rather like removing your cap during the playing of the national anthem
Posted by: Atlas4
People started complaining to the police, and the police ignored it until a patrol man saw it and took it as some anti-american thing, and took him to precinct. All charges were dropped, if I recall, because he began threatening to sue...
Posted by: Ocean
are the police allowed to intervene if its something along the lines of inciting violence?
Posted by: redwench
of course.
Posted by: elhior_manwe
Though there are some strange laws about flags still on the books in local counties and townships across the states. Some date back about 100 years most are from the 50's. Such as you could get fined for leaving your flag outside without a light on it or you can't march in a parade carrying a red flag. I wouldn't imagine any being enforced and if it was the aclu would pick up your case win it easily.
Posted by: IceBreaker
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Though there are some strange laws about flags still on the books in local counties and townships across the states [...] I wouldn't imagine any being enforced and if it was the aclu would pick up your case win it easily.
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You mean the ACLU still has some power left nowadays? http://www.touslessmileys.com/modul...age.php/155.gif
Posted by: redwench
they never had any. what they do have is funding
Posted by: elhior_manwe
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The aclu's power was never about the organization but the individual civil right attorneys and trial lawyers that are members, and as wench said thier funding. Considering the last couple of years with the backward progress of civil rights, i.e. the Padilla case and others. I would be suprised if the aclu wasn't as strong with members as it ever was.
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