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Proving knowledge...
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Posted by: Shalome
AAARRGGGHH! Working for the gov't, you have to fill out these things called DEIS-formatted resumes (don't ask me what DEIS stands for). Anyway, you have to prove you have the experience required for your job.
My job requires 5 years general experience, 3 years specific. "No problem," I think to myself, "I've been f'ing around with computers since I was 8 years old." That's what.. 15 years of general experience? And with the programs they require (standard Microsoft stuff) I've got at LEAST 3 years of specific experience.. Right?
Nope.
Experience, to the gov't, has to be proven, preferably by real-world full-time work experience. "I am a big, big dork who has played with computers her whole life and learned a bunch of crap about random stuff" doesn't cut it. I show them my real resume with my skills list and they say "but how did you LEARN this? You don't even have a degree in Computers!" (A lot of these people are afraid to touch computers with a ten foot pole and can't fathom wanting to learn when it's not required...)
So I'm going to have to get a waiver from the government saying that yes, I'm qualified to work my job.  Oh well. They're the ones that do the paperwork.
-Shalome
Posted by: laborat
just a guess but DEIS might stand for Departmental Education Information Survey...
The govt has never made it easy to get ahead...unless you know someone...
you might look into whether they have compentency testing..or something like that..that you could use to show your knowledge..
other than that.. go to your boss and say.. these guys think I cant do my job...you hired me so tell them to back off...
Posted by: Outlaw
But if they dont think you got the experience, why did they give you the job in the first place?
Posted by: Shalome
I'm a civilian contractor. My company hired me and farmed me out to the air force. The gov't, for their records, needs to know what jobs i've held in the field and how much experience I've got. This is to make sure contractors aren't hiring, for instance, a large group of poo-flinging monkeys and then passing them off as trained, qualified, semi-intelligeng human beings with college degrees. 
Although I think a semi-intelligent monkey would probably do a better job than some of the people around here... and be friendlier, too...
-Shalome
PS - found out DEIS stands for "Defense Enterprise Initiative Services."
Posted by: Chako
I have 21 yrs with computers, and still don't think I would do well on one of them DEIS forms. Got to love Govts of all types and creeds...they are all the same...with their love of red tape and catchy moniquors. This reminds me of a joke...it is a little risqué but I think it isn't bad enough to warrant censorship (Laggy this one is in your ball court). I tell this to you Shalome for it seems you need a little laugher right about now.
MEMO FROM PERSONNEL
As a direct result of the administration's cooling of the economy, we are forced to cut down on staff size.
Therefore, a program to phase out older people at the end of the current fiscal year via retirement will be placed in effect. The program will be known as RAPE (Retire Aged Personnel Early). Employees who are RAPED will be given the opportunity to seek other jobs within the system, provided that while they are being RAPED they request a review of the employment records before actual retirement takes place. This phase of the operation is called SCREW (Survey of Capabilities of REtired Workers).
All employees who have been RAPED and SCREWED may also apply for a higher review. This phase is called SHAFT (Study by Higher Authority Following Termination).
Program policy dictates that employees may be RAPED once and SCREWED twice, but may get the SHAFT as many times as this management sees fit.
Posted by: Bishop
haha.
Posted by: redwench
roflmao
i get the feeling shal will soon identify personally with that joke.
Posted by: Shalome
Nah, the higher-ups in my company signed the waiver request form. It makes the gov't aware of my age and recent-college grad status, so they won't be too hard on me for not having enough years of full-time work experience in the "real world." Apparently most departments ask for (and receive) waivers for about half their people, which makes me question why the requirements are there in the first place....
Ah, red tape. Gotta love it.
-Shalome
Posted by: laborat
management has to have SOME ways of keeping employee
salaries in line... as per the military.. it allows them to keep you at the same grade for life...even if you are doing higher grade stuff..
not that you dont get promoted but it can take years.. unless you know the right peeps..
Posted by: Null Actor
The funniest thing about computer experience though is the fact that a 15 year old with a computer is likely to have more relevant computer experience than a 40year old with 25 years of 'official' computer experience.
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