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need valid reasons why the gas prices should be lowered
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Posted by: TheeMon
BRE if you see this this was written by shawn
my teacher searches out papers and while fixing mine this thread that i made keeps coming up on every search(i wonder why lol) anyways i bet shes gonna see this...
Posted by: marioze53
because you have to pay for it.
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Originally posted by TheeMon
awaits flamage from certian members for making off topic threads
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Why would they do that? This is the general/ off topic forum...
Posted by: TheeMon
i dunno ask 9er... he'll find something....
i need valid reasons, ie gas costs are inflating our economy(prolly a bad example kuz i dunno if its true) but i need good hard reasons... reasons that would stand up in an arguement...
Posted by: 9:35
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Originally Posted by TheeMon
i dunno ask 9er... he'll find something....
i need valid reasons, ie gas costs are inflating our economy(prolly a bad example kuz i dunno if its true) but i need good hard reasons... reasons that would stand up in an arguement...
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if you're having problems with "certain members" of the forum, then maybe you should bring them up with the administrator instead of dragging the issue into every single one of your threads. then again the problem can't be that big because you feel a need to drop my name in your posts anyway even before i have anything to do with the thread 
Posted by: TheeMon
naw i dont have problems with you 9... but i knew you were gonna run your mouth so...
anyways on topic posts only!
Posted by: SKYHN
If I answer, do I get credit for your Economics class too?
Posted by: redwench
thee, you do realize that gas prices are not set arbitrarily right? you cant just tell someone to lower the price unless you also lower their cost.
Posted by: sidefx52
of course oil refinement companies could lower their profit margins. according to this source:
http://www.conocophillips.com/newsr...oil_profits.htm
oil companies make about 7.3 cents per gallon sold. Their CEOs are also banking millions a year.
Besides, gas prices are affected by oil prices. Oil prices have gone up by nearly $20 in the past year... that's almost double the price. The only way to reduce oil prices is to produce more oil, which is happening, but it takes time to reflect that on the market.
The US's gas prices are already lower then the rest of the world, and we use a lot more. Maybe we get the bulk discount?
Posted by: Bix VT
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&...pply+and+Demand
Posted by: redwench
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of course oil refinement companies could lower their profit margins.
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at the time of that writing, thats a profit margin of 5%. just how much lower do you want it to go?
crude oil is 53$ a barrel atm. 42 gal/barrel. so oil is traded at $1.25 per gallon. this is before shipping, refining, and any profit margins along the way. dont forget the federal gasoline tax as well. so the real question is: why would you expect everyone beyond the actual oil producers to take a loss so we can have lower gas prices?
Posted by: 9:35
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Originally Posted by TheeMon
naw i dont have problems with you 9... but i knew you were gonna run your mouth so...
anyways on topic posts only!
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1. i didn't "run my mouth"
2. seeing as half of everything you wrote in your posts is about me, i'd say you're the only one struggling to stay on topic in your own thread.
Posted by: TheeMon
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Originally Posted by SKYHN
If I answer, do I get credit for your Economics class too?
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its for my english class...
and i need a good argumentitive topic but it has to be about something important... i figured gas prices would work... fine ill change it... but i got no ideas on what to write it about... (and no your not doing my homework, just giving me ideas... its not like your writing my 4+ page paper for me) but i do need ideas on what to do it on, and valid points to it
Posted by: redwench
youre supposed to figure out the valid points yourself, thats part of the assignment.
kyoto treaty, operation iraqi freedom, population control, legalization of drugs.
there you go, 4 nice controversial topics to play with.
Posted by: SKYHN
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Originally Posted by TheeMon
its for my english class...
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What kind of school is dealing with economics in English class?
Posted by: TheeMon
red your last one was my first choice too... but it was banned 
and red thx for your help but i know jack about the other three
skyhn the paper is an arguementitive oh hell i 4get but i gotta find something to argue about and i gotta have valid reasons... i have thought all weekend and havent come up with anything so i ask yall...
Posted by: redwench
thee, im pretty sure the professor does not want you to write a paper on the benefits of shooting cans of ether, or growing hallucinogenic flora. so id forget going with a topic your familiar with, and pick a decent one and go research it.
Posted by: TheeMon
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or growing hallucinogenic flora.
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wtf u talking about?
also i know... but i have to find a topic i atleast know something about... and i cant think of any... gimme some simple yet doable ideas...
Posted by: Bix VT
try here: http://nhclibrary.nhmccd.edu/resear...ersial/a_f.html
it was the first hit on google when I typed in "controversial topics" and seems to have a lot of good ideas...imagine that, google wurks 4 u!
Posted by: marioze53
well you always have the classic controversial issues (i.e. abortion, affirmative action, seperation of church and state, etc.) Could try something more recent like Sudan or Congo or N Korea or even Iraq. What about that frivalous lawsuits-bill that Bush just signed? Medicare/ SS? Steroids and sports? the list goes on and on...
Posted by: Shalome
Topics:
Hunting laws
Lowering the drinking age to 18, since you are a legal adult at 18 (can vote, enter contracts, serve in the military, etc)
Gun control laws
Censorship in schools
Censorship on TV (recent FCC fines for the Janet Jackson "wardrobe malfunction" as an example)
or Ladybugs.
Posted by: Airdawg10
I'd vote for ladybugs!
Stupid pests should be RID FROM THE EARTH!!!
...controversial enough?
Posted by: TheeMon
hahahaha someone after my own heart! kill all lady bugs...
actually i would prolly do one about geting rid of lady bugs BUT my teacher allrdy thinks im stupid or something so im not gonna do that ... im prolly gonna do global warming.... because well i know a little bit about it...
my last paper i did on "my tuesdays" (it was a personal essay, it could be about anything about you includeing -a day in your life- ... i did mine about my tuesdays and she hated it)
so i want a paper that wont give her an even worse impression of me...
Posted by: Airdawg10
well, do you know if she's liberal or conservative or neither? If liberal, do a Global Warming Is Gonna Kill Us All speach and she'll love it. Conservative? Talk about allowing high school teachers having Concealed Carry permits on campus detering school shootings (nothing like hitting close to home for controversial, being on school grounds and all)
....just a couple of ideas anyway.....
Posted by: TheeMon
im doing global warming... heres my best link http://www.koshland-science-museum....c/impacts01.jsp
Posted by: Cheese
Just a thought about the gas topic...
OPEC is a cartel, right? And cartels aren't supposed to exist in business, but there's really no way to stop OPEC, so it's just accepted. They can essentially do all the price fixing they want.
I think I learned that in class, but I could have screwed up the facts, anyone know for sure?
Posted by: Bishop
You could always put in a paper about me. It'll have real meaning in four years.
Posted by: Airdawg10
Theemon~
So teacher is a liberal, eh?
Cheese~
OPEC is an international organization of several countries... who exactly is going to tell them they can't get together for their common good, the UN? 
Bishop~
Running for Prez in '08???
Posted by: TheeMon
id vote for bishop!
Posted by: Cheese
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Cheese~
OPEC is an international organization of several countries... who exactly is going to tell them they can't get together for their common good, the UN? |
That's exactly what I'm saying...
They're coming together for the common good of themselves, not the whole world.
Posted by: redwench
actually, they dont set the price. they set production quotas. they accept market price for their products just like anyone else.
Posted by: Bishop
There was a fortune teller about two blocks away from my house, back east. I was bored enough one night and had a lot of cash to burn, so I went and played the game.
If this wisened old woman was correct in her telling, I shall rule the world in secret by the time I am 25.
This coincides with my own plans for world domination, although I had not anticipated such a swift success, it does not surprise me in the least.
Posted by: Airdawg10
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Originally Posted by redwench
actually, they dont set the price. they set production quotas. they accept market price for their products just like anyone else.
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True, but when they control such a vast portion of all oil exports, they're controling 1/2 of the Supply/Demand equation. While they don't set the price, they have much influence over it...
Posted by: redwench
no dispute there. but they have absolutely no control over demand. and technically no control over supply, as its not only common for opec members to deviate from the agreed production, all the other oil producers do whatever they want.
anyway, nothing illegal about it. price fixing by private businesses in the us is illegal. supply fixing by several countries is nothing the us can control or legislate. 
Posted by: TheeMon
not theres not a really demand for demand(dont flame just understand) everyone NEEDS oil... its not like we can live without it... so we have to buy it reguardless...
Posted by: Bishop
And that kind of attitude is exactly why we need the things we really don't.
Posted by: Bix VT
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Originally Posted by TheeMon
not theres not a really demand for demand(dont flame just understand) everyone NEEDS oil... its not like we can live without it... so we have to buy it reguardless...
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what.
you can live without oil.
I suppose everyone in the 18 century was never alive.
wow, sucks to be a zombie in a corset.
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Originally Posted by Bishop
And that kind of attitude is exactly why we need the things we really don't.
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very true.
Posted by: TheeMon
i mean in todays socity(sp?) you need gas to drive... some ppl need gas to eat and heat there house...
everyone needs oil...
+++ hey update i cant do it on global warming... i need something thats more contriversial... i need a bigger audience to argue with...
more topics plz....
Posted by: Airdawg10
I love listening to people tell me to cut back on oil consumption as they fly around the country in their private jets... *cough*Arriana Huffington*cough*
Ha ha... just brought up an old funny memory about her anyway, had to throw it out...
Theemon~ Why not argue that we all need to cut out oil from our lives entirely as a means to saving the planet? Tell people about what they'd have to give up and I'll bet you get a *few* people who disagree with you... hehe
Posted by: sidefx52
social security is a pretty hot topic right now. if you don't know about it i suggest you learn all you can. unless you plan on dying before you have a chance to retire. in that case then f social security
Posted by: Bix VT
you could always argue that we need to get ourselves off of oil. some car companies have already started making hybrid cars, yet we could run 50% methanol and 50% gasoline right now in our cars with practically no ill effects. yet the US govenment pays farmers to NOT grow the grain that can make this alchohol.
here's a nice website with lots of good ideas listen from A-Z:
A-F
G-L
M-R (you might like the top one on this list  )
and S-Z
Posted by: TheeMon
i guess ill look into riding our lifes of oil...
why is it just kuz i do one recreational thing it gets brought up all the time? and you guys think my life focuses around it?
Posted by: armystud0911
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Originally Posted by sidefx52
social security is a pretty hot topic right now. if you don't know about it i suggest you learn all you can. unless you plan on dying before you have a chance to retire. in that case then f social security
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What's the debate? It'll be gone in way less than 50 years, thats just understood, get an IRA everyone. Soc. is just here to get the baby boomers throught their retirement, once they're done, it will be too.
Posted by: TheeMon
well im doing it on "why oil usage should be reduced"... thats my topic but i need a better one...
ill post it on here later and let you nitpick threw it...
Posted by: TheeMon
n/t n/t
Posted by: Bishop
How about 'Oil?'
Posted by: TheeMon
well i picked 1) why oil usage should be reduced
unless you seriously think i should change it... then i gotta go re print it though
how was it though?
Posted by: 9:35
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more topics plz....
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i'm sorry that we're not engineering more ideas for your school project
Posted by: TheeMon
more ideas for the title
Posted by: TheeMon
edited
Posted by: Bishop
too many ofs.
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edited
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and thx bish for helpin :P
Posted by: sidefx52
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Originally Posted by armystud0911
What's the debate? It'll be gone in way less than 50 years, thats just understood, get an IRA everyone. Soc. is just here to get the baby boomers throught their retirement, once they're done, it will be too.
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social security was orginally formed just to help people who had lost everything in the depression get back on track. now it's just another entitlement program. i agree with you, people should take care of their own retirements. the problem with that is convincing an entire nation to do that especially the people who are in the middle of their working life and have considered social security as their only means during retirement. there is an article in the wall street journal that estimates that in 50 years (about the time i'll be retiring) unless something is done, every dollar made from income tax will need to go into supporting retirees.
the topic is very contriversal because it is very political. the democrats accuse the republicans of creating a false sense of criticalness about social security and that everything is fine. The same article that i mentioned above was written by a non-political party assoiciated gov. agency and says that it in fact the democrats that are living in a lie. how do you convince 50% of a nation that believes the exact opposite of what you are saying is true?
--for the record i know that whats his face already picked a topic and wrote his paper, but i wanted to talk about social security anyways.
Posted by: redwench
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the democrats accuse the republicans of creating a false sense of criticalness about social security and that everything is fine.
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say wha?
the only disagreement is what to do about the problem. everyone knows its going to blow up fairly shortly as is.
Posted by: sidefx52
the democrats believe that there is some way to fix social security without privatizing it. they refuse to even talk about reforming social security unless bush completely throws out the idea of privatizing.
on the flip side of that bush absolutely will not raise the ss tax, which is part of what the dems want to do.
the democrats say that ss is in better condition then its ever been in. they have predicted that in its current state ss will last till 2028, and then the treasury bonds that have been built up over time can susstain ss till 2042 if nothing is done. they would rather do absolutely nothing than even talk to the president about fixing it. since i plan on retiring sometime in the 40's or 50's doing nothing is going to do me a whole lot of squat.
i don't trust any politician and i don't claim association to any party. both dems and reps are full of it. i will take care of myself regardless of what happens to ss with iras 401(k)s and possibly a pension plan (the employer that i accepted a postion with has pension for all its employees) not to mention my own private investments.
Posted by: redwench
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the democrats believe that there is some way to fix social security without privatizing it.
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there is. its called raising contributions and/or lowering benefits
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they have predicted that in its current state ss will last till 2028, and then the treasury bonds that have been built up over time can susstain ss till 2042 if nothing is done.
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thats about in line with most predictions from anyone. where's the dispute so far?
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they would rather do absolutely nothing than even talk to the president about fixing it.
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they have offered their suggestions to remedy the problem (although you apparently dont like them), right? the reps are therefore equally at fault for any stall.
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i don't trust any politician and i don't claim association to any party.
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usually the best choice
Posted by: Bishop
All of this is a moot point. Once I rule the world I will use every penny that is in the SS balance to seek out and train glorious yaoi stars.
Posted by: TheeMon
hey the papers turned in this topic is ended so why not have a cookie and a smile and shut the **** up
Posted by: Bishop
temper temper, said the hare, to the tortoise, who was quite contraire.
Posted by: TheeMon
****, i got my paper back, she couldnt grade it untill it fixed a few things, i gotta cite the stistics i used... but i lost all the links i used... WTF i found the one about how many millions of barrels of oil are produced a day but... i gotta find the other two still... ugh
Posted by: Bix VT
yay, thanks for the update! 
Posted by: TheeMon
yeah
hey laggy, mods... think i could get this thread deleted? my treacher searches for info in my paper and every time i search any remote part of my paper ots is one of the main links that pop up... and id prefer my teacher not see this... whatcha think?
Posted by: Bix VT
hmm...well then maybe you should
1. use google to find a different, more college-oriented forum to ask these questions on
2. use google to find out the information you need instead of asking OTSers to find it for you
3. use google to find out how to not post things that you don't want people in positions of authority to find out
if you have any questions about any of those suggestions, I reccomend this webpage here for any and all of your queries.
PS. if you are still having trouble, visit this page here
Posted by: Shalome
You know what they say, Thee.. "If you don't want it made public, don't put it on the Internet."
Posted by: TheeMon
oh i dont care if its made public... im just not sure how my teacher feels
Posted by: Shalome
The internet is a valid research tool, and asking people who may know more than you about a topic is a valid research strategy. No one here wrote your paper for you, they just suggested places you could go for further information.
Posted by: redwench
*worships bix's post*
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