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SATA + PATA = slowdown??
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Posted by: Ghetto Blasta
Hello
My computer's main drive is SATA.
I recently added a second drive that is PATA (or IDE if you prefer).
I have been able to get Windows XP home to recognize the disc, and I
formatted it. the ide disk is run as a slave. (pins are set correctly, and
set as slave on BIOS.)
However, ever since I've connected the second drive, it takes 6-7 times
longer to boot up Windows (so slow, one could mistake the computer as being
frozen). Once loaded, everything seems to be going at the normal speed.
Why is it booting so slowly?
Any suggestions?
Thanks in advance.
Posted by: trekpsycho
Do you have this drive on a IDE cable with another HD? If not, then it should be set as master. If you have it on a cable with a CDROM drive then it shoud be set as master and the CD drive should be set as slave.
Posted by: Ghetto Blasta
No, its on its own IDE cable. The DVD/CD drives are both on their own IDE connection. There are two IDEs on my motherboard.
Posted by: P0nix
Sounds like the bios is taking its time auto-detecting those ide drives. Check the BIOS and set it to quick boot. Setting the drives to Master/slave rather than using Cable Select also speeds up boot-up.
Posted by: trekpsycho
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Originally Posted by Ghetto Blasta
No, its on its own IDE cable. The DVD/CD drives are both on their own IDE connection. There are two IDEs on my motherboard.
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Then the drive must be set as master for that IDE cable.
Posted by: redwench
yeah, set it to master or select
Posted by: Ghetto Blasta
thanks trek, you were right... had to set the drive to master.
thanks again.
Posted by: Ghetto Blasta
never mind, i had forgotten to reconnect the powersupply to the drive 
its still slow as ever -- ive now set the jumpers to master, slave, and cable select with a slowdown for each setting.
anything else i can do??
Posted by: trekpsycho
You could try a different IDE cable if you have one laying around, just to see if that is the problem. Or maybe swap IDE ports on the Mobo. Is this a brand new drive or an old one?
Posted by: Ghetto Blasta
no problem with the drive or cable --- i can see the drive in windows xp. i formatted it, everything is fine. the only problem is it takes a ridiculous amount of time to boot up. that's why im confused, and have no idea what to do...
Posted by: thtadthtshldntb
look in your bios, see if you can find an option that reads something like
hard drive delay time.
For older pcs, there was a need for this to allow the hd to initialize before the system could deal with it properly. You may have this setting set under your ide controllers to several seconds. disable it or turn it to 0s.
Also, make sure that in your boot order, the bootable SATA drive is first and remove the nonbootable IDE drives.
The default settings for bioses tend to just add IDE drives to the top of the boot order when you isntall them. The bios has to check through whatever is there until it finds at least one bootable partition.
One more tip and this is bios specific. In the bios, often the IDE controllers have everything set to auto on the ide that virtually no end users will ever even understand what half of those options mean. Manually configuring the ide controllers can speed things up.
Posted by: Ghetto Blasta
the only advanced BIOS controls i have relevant to IDE is:
Local Bus IDE Adapter: []Disabled []Primary []Secondary []Both
Disabled and Secondary both give me quick boots -- but fail to see the drive.
Primary and Both both give me slow boots -- but see the drive.
in terms of booting -- i've put the SATA drive above the IDE drive in the boot sequence already -- any other suggestions?
Posted by: thtadthtshldntb
Remove the IDE drive from the boot sequence. The only drive that needs to be there is the one you are booting from.
If you need to boot from floppy or CD you could always add them back as needed.
The settings that I am talking about might not be under IDE settings, you have a section called, for example, bios genie (IIRC that's what my settings are called).
Also try updating you bios (what bios is it btw).
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