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Dead Computer. Possible Motherboard?
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Posted by: Digitalphatman
OK heres the story. Yesterday I went to a computer show in Cleveland. Was gonna look for a new mobo for parts for a coputer, but decided to just upgrade mine. I bought a new heatsink for my athlon and just got it installed. I also did that pencil trick to the athlon(as to unlock the L1 bridges) but now that i powered up the computer it does not post. Nothing at all comes up.
I think it is the motherboard but I am not sure. I do not smell anyhting as if it were burnt(i.e the processor). I doubt its the psu b/c all my drvies light up and turn on and the hd starts spinning but thats all.. Also the one case fan i have that is hooked to the motherboard does not work or even turn on. (I don't have the heatsink fan attacvhed to the motherboard b/c it would drag al kind of cables acroos my computer, its fo r airflow). I cleared the cmos via a jumper, and everything to autodetect(voltages and multiplier) . I even switched vid cards incase my video card decided to die on me. I am kinda freaked out and don't know what to do. Could it be my mobo?
MY specs are
FIC(i know i know its crap) az11e
athlon b 100mhz fsb
hercules prophet Geforce ddr
Toshiba 10x dvd
Pacific digital 8x8x32 burner
maxtor 20 gig 54oorpm
256 mb crucial pc 133 ram
d-link network card
ati tv wonder tv-card
creative labs pci modem
2 extra case fan, only one of which is hooked tot het mobo.
Any suggestions other than switching mobos? Could it be my motherboard and if it si my processor fried wouldn't i smell burning?
Thanks for all the help!!!!!!!!
<digitalphatman>
Posted by: Foogar
Is the heat sink sitting on top of the pencil marks? That could cause them all to short together.
Posted by: Null Actor
You probably wouldn't smell it if your processor died.
But I find it much more likely that your processor is dead, considering you did stuff to it.
Those are the risks you take when unlocking processors. You might have connected to separate bridges by accident, or something else like that.
Posted by: Digitalphatman
this is a stupid question but could i just get rid of the locks on the processor???
Posted by: Chako
I agree. If the motherboard worked fine before, and all you did was play with the CPU and heatsink...ergo..motherboard should still be ok unless you forced the heatsink onto the CPU breaking some traces to the socket itself (I have seen this done once..I kid you not), Highly unlikely....so I think you botched your CPU. I would take the heatsink off and gently oh so gently try to erase the pencil marks and try again. If its fried, its fried, but you just never know.
Posted by: Kdr Kane
One more thing, check the pins on the CPU and make sure none of them are bent.
Posted by: Null Actor
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Originally posted by Digitalphatman
this is a stupid question but could i just get rid of the locks on the processor???
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What do you mean?
And why bother?
Buying a faster processor is cheaper than replacing a processor fried from overclocking.
Just buy the fast one to start with, and save yourself money.
Posted by: Digitalphatman
What i meant by the locks on the processor is could i just erase them and reverse what i have done?
ANother reason i htinks its the mobo is b/c i was getting frustrated with attaching the heatsink(gett the clip ti actually stay on. So my roomate decided he would try and ended up jabbing it with a screw driver and made a nice sized mark  . I just nooticed the mark after trying to erase the pencil marks
Its not the cost factor. If i have to buy a new processor so be it. THe problem is that i really need a computer and i do not have one. I don't have the parts to put one together up here at college with me.  I was hoping there is ome way i could get it working with out having to wait for new parts.
Thanks for all the help in dealing with my stupidity.
Posted by: Ion Silverbolt
Heatsink clips are about the worst design I have ever seen in PC parts. Whoever designed them needs shot. I could probably invent a better design than what they use now and i'm not even an engineer.
Anyway whatever is damaged, you should be able to RMA it and get a new one since you just got it.
Posted by: Dabom
I'm not sure if the pencil trick even works. Some say it does, others argue against it.
http://www6.tomshardware.com/column...1124/index.html
I'm just curious, but what kind of heatsink and heatsink fan did you buy?
Posted by: Chako
Oh oh. Your friend should never be let around a computer with its lid off. Sigh. Oh well....take a real good look at that motherboard. Are there any traces (metal lines) cut or even nicked, if so, then you may as well toss it out and buy a new one. Cut traces can be repaired but it is timely and expensive, and probably would cost you a good sum off a new motherboard anyhow.
Posted by: Null Actor
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Originally posted by Digitalphatman
ANother reason i htinks its the mobo is b/c i was getting frustrated with attaching the heatsink(gett the clip ti actually stay on. So my roomate decided he would try and ended up jabbing it with a screw driver and made a nice sized mark . I just nooticed the mark after trying to erase the pencil marks
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Which heatsink?
And like chako says, if there is a scrap on either a trace, or a chip connector, or even on a chip itself, chances are your board is toast.
I'd make your friend pick up the tab on the replacement.
If heatsinks have the standard clips, they usually aren't that tough to get on.
But I'm guessing you had something from Thermaltake... they have the worst clips in history.
Posted by: Sarc
Well, it probably is your mobo.
I peronally get a little un-easy when I drop a screw onto a mobo I'm working on. And to think that your freind stabed your mobo! My skin's crawling just at the thought.
I wouldn't advise it, but if some trusting soul near you has a processor that is compatible with your mobo, you could try it in your system. Or better yet, try your processor in their system, if the processor works, hands down bad mobo. And that way, you won't risk a faulty mobo damaging someone else's processor.
Good luck.
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