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Glutton Bowl
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Posted by: AK47
yeah, thats what it was called.
Earlier tonight on the tastefull network we call FOX, a two hour 'eating championship' aired. Enough said... well not quite.
Basically, each round would pit 5 dudes (and in two rounds- chicks) against eachother in a 5 minute eat-off. Once each person was introduced, the food that they would stuff themselves with would be dropped from above into a giant bowl on the stage.
some of the more notable things that got eatten:
38 hardboiled eggs
1 whole cow tounge
8 pounds of mayonaise!!!!!!!
5 bull testicles
15 pounds of cow brains*
34 hot dogs*
*both the 15 pounds of cow brains and 34 hotdogs were eaten by the same man- a 130 pound japanese dude.
Man oh man. This kind of stuff probably shouldnt be on TV.
Posted by: Cheese
Absolutely hilarious. I couldn't stop myself from laughing as I watched this thing. Certainly the most disgusting to me was the 8 pounds of mayonaisse downed by the Ukrainian guy. I just can't believe they had to do a qualifier and final round in the same night.
It was funny watching those 400 pound guys getting slaughtered by the little Japanese dude. And what was with those announcers? They went on and on about crap like jaw-strength  And when the Japanese kid won, he called him the greatest athlete in the world...
Posted by: Muggs
That shit owned and the little asian guy won.
i so knew he would
Posted by: Ion Silverbolt
I feel sorry for anyone who stood in the lobby with them after the competition. You know their asses had to be expelling some toxic gases for sure after eating all that crap.
Posted by: Tweaker
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Originally posted by Ion Silverbolt
I feel sorry for anyone who stood in the lobby with them after the competition. You know their asses had to be expelling some toxic gases for sure after eating all that crap.
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lol  Yea, its going to be a long day for them today!
Posted by: SKYHN
Im so tired of shows like this.
Domino Rally, Survivor, Big Brother, Temptation Island, The 5th Wheel and so many more. They are all the same. A competition that has no point.
These shows are all the same. They act like whatever is happening is the biggest thing in the world. The announcers get intense and go crazy like aliens have landed or Hitler is being resurected. I just dont get it.
And this whole "Glutton Bowl", what did that prove? Whos the biggest pig in the world? People who make a living eating cow brains or 15ft Sushi Rolls are insane and should be commited.
I wish we could go back to the good ol' days when MTV was the only network with "Reality Television". If supreme beings are watching us, they have got to be shaking their heads and saying "WTF kind of intelligence is this?".
Bring back Seinfeld, Married With Children and other good shows and get this crap off the air!
Posted by: Ion Silverbolt
Posted by: Spider
Lol Ion.
Skhyn if you don't like it don't watch it.
Posted by: SKYHN
I dont watch it. But I have to hear about it and see it on the news, magazines, the radio and everywhere else. Not watching it doesnt help.
I've heard the name "Richard Hatch" and seen the guy on TV 15 Gabillion Times and Ive never EVER watched one episode of Survivor.
Posted by: Spider
Who is Richard Hatch?
Posted by: SKYHN
....how did I know that would be the next post on this topic...
Posted by: Spider
. . . I still have no idea who the hell he is.
Posted by: AK47
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Originally posted by SKYHN
Im so tired of shows like this.
And this whole "Glutton Bowl", what did that prove? Whos the biggest pig in the world? People who make a living eating cow brains or 15ft Sushi Rolls are insane and should be commited.
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Ha, you watched it. Nobody here mentioned the 15 ft. sushi roll. Yeah, you watched it and you loved it. You're just ashamed!
And what did it prove? Whos the biggest pig in the world? Yes! Just because these people make a living eating cow brains doesnt make them insane. And they should not be commited.
You know what I think is insane? When big strong guys get into a big square boxing ring, fake punch eachother, toss eachother around, hit eachother with real steel chairs, cut themselves to produce blood, and get paid for it. Then, they always feel it neccesary to give really dumb interviews- like someone actually wants to hear these dolts speak!!
You know who should be comitted? Hulk Hogan. The dude is almost 60 (if he isnt yet) and he is still wrestling. That my friend is insane.
I bet you $100 that the small Japanese dude who won Glutton Bowl is in better shape than Hogan. hell yeah he is. Hogan has to wear a weight lifting belt to hold up his gut.
Posted by: SKYHN
I did not sit back and watch the show. I flipped through the channels while there was a commercial break on Smackdown. The part with the sushi rolls was on, thats how I saw it. When I saw the part with the cow brains, I was switching channels to see what was on, which was also because of a commercial on smackdown. At no time did I tune in and actually watch it like a regular show. I didnt even know there was a small japanese guy until I saw this thread.
I viewed it and hated it. Theres enough Pig contests on Jerry Springer.
Wrestling is not reality TV. Its a Male Soap Opera.
Posted by: AK47
This tag of "reality tv" is getting tossed around far too much. If you call the Glutton Bowl reality tv, then the Superbowl or the World Series must also be reality tv. So- what is wrong with reality tv?
The main problems lies in the fact that shows that are considered to be 'reality tv' arent real. Survivor, Real World, etc- they're all bullshit.
Wrestling not being reality tv doesnt make the people in it suddenly sane. They are still insane for all the reasons I mentioned- "big strong guys get into a big square boxing ring, fake punch eachother, toss eachother around, hit eachother with real steel chairs, cut themselves to produce blood, and get paid for it"
yeah, they sure should be comitted.
Posted by: SKYHN
How is the Superbowl and the World Series "reality tv"? They are sporting events. Survivor is not a sporting event. Glutton Bowl is not a sporting event.
Reality TV is classified as Persons in either a competition or pagentry of more than one person using any means necessary to win a money/item prize or person. The Real World is the only "reality TV" show that does not have a competetion.
Almost all the people that are on reality TV shows end up becomming famous, not because of their great acting like real Stars do, but because they get picked to be on a show to fight and become friends with strangers as a competition.
Wrestling is refered to as a "Male Soap Opera" by Vince McMahon, but is, in technical terms, Sports Entertainment. Wrestling has been around for a long time. Abraham Lincoln invented the freaking Tombstone Piledriver!
The Harlem Globetrotters are sports entertainment, but would you have Stanley "Scrubs" McKinely commited for spinning the ball on his finger? Hes a "Big tall guy that gets into a rectangle basketball court, fake plays against other teams, pull tricks on the referee's, gives away his shoes at halftime, slamdunk a real basketball, and get payed for it."
Posted by: Spider
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Originally posted by AK47
Ha, you watched it. Nobody here mentioned the 15 ft. sushi roll. Yeah, you watched it and you loved it. You're just ashamed!
And what did it prove? Whos the biggest pig in the world? Yes! Just because these people make a living eating cow brains doesnt make them insane. And they should not be commited.
You know what I think is insane? When big strong guys get into a big square boxing ring, fake punch eachother, toss eachother around, hit eachother with real steel chairs, cut themselves to produce blood, and get paid for it. Then, they always feel it neccesary to give really dumb interviews- like someone actually wants to hear these dolts speak!!
You know who should be comitted? Hulk Hogan. The dude is almost 60 (if he isnt yet) and he is still wrestling. That my friend is insane.
I bet you $100 that the small Japanese dude who won Glutton Bowl is in better shape than Hogan. hell yeah he is. Hogan has to wear a weight lifting belt to hold up his gut.
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LOL!!
Posted by: SKYHN
So because hogan is old, he has to quit, right? Why quit something if you can still do it? Ric Flair is the same way. He is old too, but why quit, he can still do it. Even Bret Hart is getting old. He was kicked in the head by Clumsy Goldberg about 2 or 3 years ago and it damn near ended his life as we know it. Couldnt speak properly for over 6 months, couldnt eat solid foods for weeks. He came back from that injury and is wrestling again today(Not in the WWF).
And where is this "Gut" on Hogan you speak of? I saw him monday and last night, no gut to be found. The weightbelt is part of his "Hollywood Hogan" persona. When he took off the belt to whip the Rock with it, I didnt see a gut come pressing up on his nWo shirt. If he ever returns to "Hulk Hogan" that belt will be gone. Theres only one wrestler that has a "Gut" and thats Stone Cold, its a Bear Belly.
That "Small japanese dude" will be dead in a few years if he keeps doing what hes doing. I would hate to take his cholesterol count. When eating animal brains becomes a national pastime, let me know.
Wrestlers love to entertain, thats what wrestling is all about. You can ask every wrestler in the world what their goal is, the #1 answer will be "To Entertain". Why do you think they go into other things, like Movies or TV Shows? They want to entertain further. Why has the rock hosted saturday night live along with 3 other wrestlers? Or why has Austin been on Several TV shows and Hosted MadTV? Why has HHH been on Both MadTV and SNL? To Entertain.
If you could get paid for doing the thing you love the most, would you do it? I know I would.
Posted by: Swilo
I have one thing to say:
"Your entertainment sucks because mine is better."
Posted by: SKYHN
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Originally posted by Swilo
I have one thing to say:
"Your entertainment sucks because mine is better."
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Thats not what my message is.
Reality TV is shoved down my throat. Its on every channel of basic cable and nearly every cable channel now. Heres a list of SOME networks its on:
FOX
NBC
ABC
CBS
PBS
UPN
WB
USA
TNT
And some of those stations have Multiple Reality TV Shows.
Is wrestling shoved down my throat? No. There is only one Televised Wrestling Federation and it is on 3 stations. When the Rock was in the Mummy Returns movie, did he perform the "Peoples Elbow" on Brandon Fraiser? No. He played the Roll of the Scorpion King, not the Rock.
When Jeff from Survivor goes on CNN, who is he? He is Jeff from Survivor, not Jeff from Branson, Missouri. When the Rock goes on CNN, who is he? He is Duane Johnson from Miami, Florida.
And besides, I wasnt the one that brought up wrestling into the this thread, I simply mentioned I had been watching it last night.
Posted by: AK47
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When Jeff from Survivor goes on CNN, who is he? He is Jeff from Survivor, not Jeff from Branson, Missouri. When the Rock goes on CNN, who is he? He is Duane Johnson from Miami, Florida.
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when he goes anywhere- he is the rock. dont kid yourself. they may say his real name, but every single time is preceded or followed by "The Rock from tv's WWF Raw"
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And some of those stations have Multiple Reality TV Shows.
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Is that like Survivor with schizophreniacs?
Posted by: Spider
Ric Flair needs to be put in a home.
I've hated that **** since I was like 5.
Posted by: AltronHGX
I have a question-
Whats so real about "Chains of Love" that earns it a "Reality show" label?
I don't see whats so real about a guy being chained by the wrists to 4 women and 1 woman being chained by the wrists to 4 guys.
Posted by: Muggs
Hey wresting boy stop watchin your tough enough shit and quit crying about reality shows
Posted by: -)(nsane-
My least favorite part of all about the Glutton Bowl is that it replaced 2 episodes of The Family Guy. I wanted to watch The Family Guy cuz its a really funny show but I saw these people eating each other so i turned off my TV. I was mad. 
Posted by: Null Actor
Skyhn, quit trying to convince anyone that wrestling is any less stupid than any other stupid tv show on tv.
"Sports entertainment" is also a phrase coined by mcmahon.
Most people with an opinion people care about call wrestling trash.
Fact of the matter is, it's ALL dumb. It's ALL stupid. Real sports are different, because they are sports (Though I still don't like them, I see the validity compared to shows made purely for entertainment).
There is no 'sport' in wrestling. It's pure entertainment. Same with all these reality tv shows crap.
It's all junk.
Posted by: Spider
lol Muggs
Posted by: Muggs
boo hoo i dont like reality tv oh wait i watch wrestling which means i probablly watch Tough Enough
oh wait thats all probablly a scam and fake like the rest too
Its all good entertainment some how some way you dont like it dont watch it
and best of all a new survivor is coming up
Posted by: Chako
Is it any wonder I don't watch much TV?
Discovery and TLC is where its at, and yet, I find TLC with their stupid Trauma TV show disgusting. The mere thought that someone is trying to make money selling a show where they film poor strangers in pain and suffering is aborrent to me. Much like the notion that Wrestling can even be entertaining. Wrestling is junk. Pure utter dark discrepid junk that rots the brain. To think that when the camera pans to the crowd, you see young children there screaming for blood like their degenerate parents, makes my stomach churn. People wonder why people are more violent today then they were 40 years ago…..
Many of our troubles as a society are mirrored on TV. What people like these days and call entertainment is rotten. Reality TV shows are stupid. The sooner people wizen up and realize that such things have no substance, the sooner they can start placing good programming on TV. Yeah right...and pigs can fly!
Posted by: SKYHN
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Originally posted by Chako
To think that when the camera pans to the crowd, you see young children there screaming for blood like their degenerate parents, makes my stomach churn. People wonder why people are more violent today then they were 40 years ago…
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Sreaming for blood? I think not. Screaming for the Rock to do a Peoples Elbow, yes. Screaming for Austin to drop a stunner, yes. Screaming for Kane as he creates fire from the ring posts, yes. When they start chanting "Make him bleed" let me know, in the all the years I have been watching wrestling and going to their shows, Ive yet to see anyone say that.
Just remember everyone: I DID NOT BRING WRESTLING INTO THIS THREAD
Everyone on here claims to know so much about wrestling, yet none of you watch it or have even seen it enough to know. If wrestling was so bad like everyone on this site seems to think, it wouldnt get ther rattings it gets, be around or on as long as it has been. Ive been watching it since WrestleMania 3, and I dont plan on stopping anytime soon. Ive heard "its fake" millions of times, but it doesnt matter.
I have seen reality TV enough to know how crappy it really is.
The rattings for Survivor, Temptation Island and the other Reality TV shows have been so crap lately. It amazes me how a ABC will Take "Norm" off the air because it was getting bad rattings, but when Survivor gets bad rattings, CBS leaves it on the air.
And BTW: I dont like tough enough. I watched 2 episodes: The first one and the one with Kurt Angle. Never watched it again.
Posted by: Chako
SKYHN, the popularity of wrestling today is a sad social commentary.
Yeah, I watch it, yeah I see all the kids in the crowd. Its not something I would let my kid watch, let alone bring him out there to see grown men beat each other up in choreographed moves.
Lets face it, Wrestling is fixed, fake, and full of BS. There isn't even any sport to it. It is an act, a realistic looking act. An act that many children and even some adults buy into. I cannot tell you how many times (when I was growing up), I saw children doing moves from Andre the Giant and Hulk Hogan. Yes, many got hurt at it. That is the point. Wrestling is sick no matter how you justify it. I rest my case.
You like it..fine. Just don't try to persuade me that I don't know enough about it to make an informed opinion on the subject.
Posted by: Null Actor
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Originally posted by SKYHN
Just remember everyone: I DID NOT BRING WRESTLING INTO THIS THREAD
Everyone on here claims to know so much about wrestling, yet none of you watch it or have even seen it enough to know.
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You brought wrestling in to this thread when you participated. Calling one show junk while being an avid (and vocal) fan of another show which is junk is totally hypocritical.
That's what brought it in to this thread.
And yes, I used to watch wrestling. I know what's there. I occasionally watch a bit here or there when I flip through the channels. My last roomate watched it pretty often, so occasionally I'd just watch it cause it was on.
In college I used to watch it all the time.
And let me be the first to say that I realized the entire time that it's the same kind of TRASH that is everywhere on TV. It has no redeeming value whatsoever, and it is no better or worse than any other gimmick show.
Either quit defending wrestling, or quit bashing other tv shows. Doing both makes you look dumb.
Posted by: SKYHN
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Originally posted by AK47
You know what I think is insane? When big strong guys get into a big square boxing ring, fake punch eachother, toss eachother around, hit eachother with real steel chairs, cut themselves to produce blood, and get paid for it. Then, they always feel it neccesary to give really dumb interviews- like someone actually wants to hear these dolts speak!!
You know who should be comitted? Hulk Hogan. The dude is almost 60 (if he isnt yet) and he is still wrestling. That my friend is insane.
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Did I write the above paragraphs. No.
That is where wrestling was brought into this thread and it wasnt by me.
I didnt say anything to the point of bragging about wrestling til after the above comments.
Posted by: Null Actor
He said that because you were bashing other 'junk' tv shows while it is READILY apparent that you are an avid fan of another tv show that's just as bad.
Anyway, if you don't like the thread, you don't have to participate.
But if you can't take it, don't deal it.
Posted by: Ion Silverbolt
Chako, I don't think anything on TV can be held responsible for the behavior of kids. If kids hurt themselves by doing wrestling moves they saw on TV, it's their parents fault for not policing what their kids watch.
If I have a kid, I sure as hell wouldn't let him watch 90% of stuff out there. If I did, I would make sure I watched it with him so I can at least install some values on him so he knows better.
Granted I think TV is almost totally trash, but blaming a TV program for kids getting hurt is no different than blaming video games.
Posted by: Swilo
TV is for fun shows, like olympic curling and the random show you watch for 3 hours without knowing what it is.
HAR!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: AK47
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SKYHN, the popularity of wrestling today is a sad social commentary.
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whoa whoa there. lighten up a little. Wrestling is a stupid tv show(s)- thats it. It's no worse and no better than everybody loves raymond or some other crap like that. its all fake and all stupid.
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Yeah, I watch it, yeah I see all the kids in the crowd. Its not something I would let my kid watch, let alone bring him out there to see grown men beat each other up in choreographed moves.
Lets face it, Wrestling is fixed, fake, and full of BS. There isn't even any sport to it. It is an act, a realistic looking act. An act that many children and even some adults buy into. I cannot tell you how many times (when I was growing up), I saw children doing moves from Andre the Giant and Hulk Hogan. Yes, many got hurt at it. That is the point. Wrestling is sick no matter how you justify it. I rest my case
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Wrestling is fixed fake and full of BS????!!! You lie like a rug my friend! Cmon now. Dont give us that useless fact. My friend's 4 and 8 year old kids know that. Everybody knows it.
However, dont say there isnt any sport to it. There is. If you think you could do a single move those guys can, you are greatly mistaken. Like it or not (which you apparently dont)- it does take skill and tallent and strength. Is it silly? Hell yes. But the simple fact is that the wrestlers in the WWF are incredibly strong, and just as tallented as any Basketball, hockey, football, baseball, etc player out there. Doing all those moves without killing yourself (or your opponent) is an extremely difficult thing. Its something that people go to years of Wrestling school to learn. Its not easy.
Wrestling is sick no matter how you justify it? jesus christ man. if wrestling is a big concern of yours, you might need to get your priorities straightened up. Like Ion said- blaming wrasslin or any basic tv show for kids beating up other kids is insane. you might as well blame video games.
oh and for the record
I brought wrestling into this thread!!!
so what?? SKYHN, nobody ever said you brought it up. they simply attacked you and your love for wrestling simply because they know you like it so much. thats it.
Posted by: SKYHN
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Originally posted by AK47
But the simple fact is that the wrestlers in the WWF are incredibly strong, and just as tallented as any Basketball, hockey, football, baseball, etc player out there.
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Indeed that is true. Look at Kurt Angle. The man is an olympic gold medalist. And he won that gold medal with a "broken freakin neck" as he says when he tells the story. Look at Chris Jericho. Jericho is a exceptional hockey player, much like his father(Jericho is also the lead singer of the rock band Fozzy but thats not a sport). Guys like The Rock and Farooq, tremendous former football players. Mark Henry(aka sexual chocolate) won the Strongest Man in the World competition a few years back, hes entered this year too(its going on right now actually).
A guy like Rikishi, who is 6' 1" and weighs 400 pounds, can take a forearm and do a backflip in the air and land on his back.
Shawn Waltman(X-Pac) has wrestled before for a 3 month period with a broken neck and never complained once.
I remember a few years back when Scotty Pipen stubbed his toe after he made a 3 point shot. He sat out for 3 games! What would he do if he broke his neck?
Posted by: Null Actor
Just cause the 'wrestlers' are in good shape or need skill doesn't make it a sport.
It's still just entertainment; there is no sport. Calling it a sport implies that their skill determines the outcome. However, that is definitely not the case in wrestling.
It's entertainment, nothing more. The 'wrestlers' are entertainers, nothing more.
Posted by: Darky!
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Originally posted by SKYHN
These shows are all the same. They act like whatever is happening is the biggest thing in the world. The announcers get intense and go crazy like aliens have landed or Hitler is being resurected. I just dont get it.
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Sort of like this Wrestling and NWO, and WWF, and whatever else they came up with in the lamo department.
Posted by: SKYHN
I guess the "Glutton Bowl" needed color commentary and an analyst to tell us that a small japanese guy is eating food fast?
Sports needs those two things. Eating food fast is not a sport.
Posted by: Muggs
I watch mah WWF once a month and guess what. its still crap just like everything else on tv.
you cant really argue what show is crappier than others cause everything just blows ass these days.
Posted by: Spider
Okay, I know this is a late reply, but I fell asleep watching a movie earlier.
Skyhn, you bring wrestling everywhere with you on these boards. Look at your signature it's a multicolored testiment to bad taste, and you tote it like a medal. And all those, "Sports Entertainers" you meantioned, who have history in other athletics, doesn't even make up for the lack of sports in, "Sports Entertainment." Hell not even close. And as for my qualifications to berate wrestling I used to be an avid WWF fan a few years ago, until I realized that in the two hour program on monday nights, there is only about 10 minutes of actual entertainment, and hence not worth my time (much like the rest of television).
Posted by: SKYHN
Is there a rule in the TOS that says I cant have wrestling related material in my sig?
Thats like telling someone wearing a Washington Redskins shirt not to wear it because its a multicolored testiment to bad team.
Posted by: Null Actor
No rule.
However, don't expect to not be used as the poster child for wrestling arguments when you flaunt it like that.
Posted by: Spider
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Originally posted by Nova Z
No rule.
However, don't expect to not be used as the poster child for wrestling arguments when you flaunt it like that.
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Posted by: Muggs
dude just face it SkYHN your being manipulated like a tool by these 2 because wrestling has gotten to your brain.
Posted by: SKYHN
I am being manipulated? In what way?
Posted by: Muggs
to look like an utter idiot
Posted by: SKYHN
So defending something makes a person an idiot?
Its pretty obvious hardly anyone here likes wrestling. I have made only 2 threads about wrestling and dont plan on ever making another again. The times I have discussed it with people was through PM's with the people that wanted to talk about it.
I came into this thread talking about reality TV and it was turned into wrestling by others.
If I see a thread that is talking about wrestling, I will join it but I do not turn a non-wrestling thread into a wrestling one, especially when I know that on this site its just bait for an attack.
Posted by: Muggs
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I did not sit back and watch the show. I flipped through the channels while there was a commercial break on Smackdown. The part with the sushi rolls was on, thats how I saw it. When I saw the part with the cow brains, I was switching channels to see what was on, which was also because of a commercial on smackdown. At no time did I tune in and actually watch it like a regular show. I didnt even know there was a small japanese guy until I saw this thread.
I viewed it and hated it. Theres enough Pig contests on Jerry Springer.
Wrestling is not reality TV. Its a Male Soap Opera.
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That was the first mention of wrestling i seen and guess who posted that. Go ahead guess.
Posted by: SKYHN
Go read the post right before that one, then tell me who posted about wrestling first. Go ahead read.
Posted by: Muggs
he said boxing ring not wrestling ring
Posted by: SKYHN
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Originally posted by AK47
You know what I think is insane? When big strong guys get into a big square boxing ring, fake punch eachother, toss eachother around, hit eachother with real steel chairs, cut themselves to produce blood, and get paid for it. Then, they always feel it neccesary to give really dumb interviews- like someone actually wants to hear these dolts speak!!
You know who should be comitted? Hulk Hogan. The dude is almost 60 (if he isnt yet) and he is still wrestling. That my friend is insane.
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That looks like more than boxing ring to me. AK47 himself even said he brought wrestling into this thread.
Posted by: Muggs
no he brought hulk hogan
not wrestling
he brought a person
Posted by: Chako
I can blame wrestling for what little kids do in the playground quite easily just as I can blame their parents. They both have equal emphasis on that kids behavior. It is difficult to control what your kid hears at school, or might become a guinea pig for other kids hyped on that junk. I know, I see it all too often. It is all too easy to blame the parent in this world also. It can never be what little jimmy saw on TV or follows like a religious maniac. Nope….it must be the parents fault. Well, parents are to blame…but I don’t think the ball rest wholly in their court. I think its time that TV producers start taking a responsible role in what goes on. Right now as it stands, I never watch TV. I don’t have any favorite programs other then TLC and Discovery. That tells me all I need to know right there.
At a young age, people are very impressionable. They should not be watching this crap on TV, and yet, Wrestling is time slotted so that the little ones can see it with their parents or alone.
As for "the same thing as blaming video games", well lets see....hmmm...no way close.
Wrestling is hyped much more then any video game in history. More people and their little ones watch that junk then anyone ever playing games. Wrestling is a multi billion dollar industry that gives what the fans want....more stupidity. There is no correlation between my blaming wrestling and blaming video games for peoples behavior. Take Kurt Angle for instance. That guy keeps talking about his gold medal. A lot of people started watching wrestling when he got in simply because here is a respectable athlete that many people knew.
Ever seen some of the advertising? They talk about the Greatest Athletes in the world competing. They talk about them as Gods in the ring. Its the most hyped crap in the world.
End point is that if you want to watch it…fine. I am not advocating that wrestling should be banned from the face of the Earth. I just think it could be on a later time slot so that children can’t see it. It all boils down to responsibility.
And yes, it is a sad social commentary on society....
Posted by: Tweaker
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Originally posted by Spider
Who is Richard Hatch?
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Richard Hatch
Posted by: Muggs
this SKYHN guy makes time fly
Posted by: Ion Silverbolt
I find a game of AvsP2 far more violent than anything in wrestling. There are places in the game where you behead people if you play the Predator. Nothing about wrestling ever disturbed me like that.
I don't have a problem with either one of them but saying wrestling is a bad influence and video games aren't doesn't make sense.
Posted by: Chako
Games are not real....you can never make that mistake unless your crazy and not all there...to which I would strongly recommend not to play games.
Wrestling however is real. It looks real, even though you and I know it is fake. Those are real people up on that stage making a fool of themselves. Furthermore, those fools are appealing to many people.
Problem is that because it looks very real...much more realistic then any video game, more people buy into it. So, they act out their favorite moves if they are young enough.
I have yet to see anyone act out their favorite game character to such harmful results as pile drivers in the school yard. Furthermore, game characters don't hold the attention as do wrestling characters. Kids tend to associate wrestling characters as super heroes.
Besides, playing games have proven to be a relaxer to many people because it is a safe and harmless release method. People watch wrestling, a pure spectator sport, get all pumped up and do stupid things. You will note that I am generalizing here because basically, not everyone who watches wrestling is an idiot that does stupid things. This is why I am focusing this towards the children who are not mature enough to realize that it is all BS and that these guys all have a drink afterwards in a local bar.
So basically, yes, I can make that distinction. I am making this very basic so that I don't have to type out much. That is the gist of it.
Oh by the way, yes, I do find some games disturbing myself, and would not let my children play on them without parental supervision.
Posted by: Darky!
You can't blaim the paents. If anything, they can try. Kids will go to a friends house, watch it while the parents are gone, and a lenient baby sitter is there, etc etc.
Paren't aren't alwas to blame.
And ION. As the predator, its not just some parts where you behead opponents. Its all parts.
Posted by: AK47
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As for "the same thing as blaming video games", well lets see....hmmm...no way close.
Wrestling is hyped much more then any video game in history. More people and their little ones watch that junk then anyone ever playing games. Wrestling is a multi billion dollar industry that gives what the fans want....more stupidity. There is no correlation between my blaming wrestling and blaming video games for peoples behavior. Take Kurt Angle for instance. That guy keeps talking about his gold medal. A lot of people started watching wrestling when he got in simply because here is a respectable athlete that many people knew.
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whether wrestling is hyped or not, makes no difference in this debate. kids see both things- wrestling and video games. your reason for not liking wrestling is because kids see it and they want to do what the wrestlers do. ok. the exact same thing is said about video games. thats it- its a simple fact. there really isnt a debate here.
you say wrestling influences kids more becasuse its more hyped? nah. thats no good. thats bassically blaming comercials for kids behaviors. with kids, games and wrestling are 2 very popular things in their lives. saying one is more influential than the other is pretty trivial.
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It's still just entertainment; there is no sport. Calling it a sport implies that their skill determines the outcome. However, that is definitely not the case in wrestling.
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calling it a sport means the participants need to be athletic. these guys are athletic.
oh, and Muggs - I brought wrestling into this thread!!
christ man. I wrote it in my last post. I started the whole wrestling thing. jeez.
oh, and dont tell SKYHN or anyone that they are being manuipulated into looking like and idiot. that an incredibly stupid thing to say. you dont like wrestling- fine. But, that gives you no right to attack people here by calling them idiots. lay off.
Posted by: Nfested
If you don't like those shows then don't watch. Richard Hatch is the guy who won the first season of Survivor. But I do not know what you are talking about. He got his 15 minutes of fame and that was it. I never see Richard Hatch or anyone on survivor in the media after the season is over.
Besides, reality TV will be part of television for a long time now. Networks are making money off them so i don't see a reason why there won't be more reality TV shows in the future.
Posted by: Chako
I have had my say on the topic. I respect all other opinions. I can see both sides.
Still doesn't change my views on wrestling and gaming, and the clear differences between em.
Posted by: Null Actor
Chako has a very valid point.
I'm sitting here trying to remember even one instance of any child I've ever known (including myself and friends when young) mimicking things we saw in video games.
Now I think of how many times we mimicked things we saw on TV.
Chako has a good point.
Parenting isn't all of this. The fact that wrestling exists makes it impossible for any child to avoid it. If even one parent allows their child to watch this stuff whenever, every child they come in to contact with will end up knowing about it.
Videogames and wrestling aren't the same thing. You are talking about fake and real. You can't really compare them. Try and convince anyone on the planet that any video game is real; won't work (if they are even remotely sane).
But I bet everyone knows someone who thought wrestling was real at one point in time.
However, SKYHN, I would just like to reiterate: If you can't take it, don't give it. If you don't want people slamming wrestling, then don't just waltz in and slam something that for all intents and purposes is exactly the same.
Posted by: SKYHN
I dont care that people are slamming wrestling. Thats been going on for years. But if they do attack it, I will defend.
Did anyone here actually defend "Reality TV" ?
Posted by: Muggs
Is there even such a thing?
when its all monitored and controled.
how can that be reality? the cameras shut off and they slip the "contestants" some pizza
you ever see those "We pay you to lose weight in 30 days!" adds in the newspaper
what you think that is?
Posted by: SKYHN
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when its all monitored and controled.
how can that be reality? the cameras shut off and they slip the "contestants" some pizza
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The networks branded those shows reality TV. What would you call them? They arent gameshows, they arent sitcoms and they arent soap operas.
From what I know, the show "Survivor" has rules. As does all the other shows like it. Everything I know about survivor and the other shows has come not from watching the show, but from either hearing about it on another channel or in a magazine.
Its those kinds of shows that I dont like and dont watch yet I have to see and hear about them on other networks. Katie Curik on an NBC morning show will talk for 10 mins about Joey from survivor on CBS, but has she ever mentioned that The Rock beat HHH for the WWF Undisputed Championship?
Posted by: Muggs
Why would someone want to do that?
Posted by: Darky!
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Katie Curik on an NBC morning show will talk for 10 mins about Joey from survivor on CBS, but has she ever mentioned that The Rock beat HHH for the WWF Undisputed Championship?
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Nope. Wanna know why? No one really gives a damn about wrestling anymore. People however still seem to give the slightest bit of interest to survivor and this reality TV BS.
There was one point in time when wrestling was real. Believe it or not. They didn't cut themselves. They didn't use fake blood. It was real blood from real injureies. Real bruises. Real moves. Real wrestlers.
That day and age has passed.
Guess what? The people who are behind the wrestling crap, whatever corperation, or company is funding it, doesn't CARE. All they want, is MONEY.
Money makes the world go round.
Posted by: Muggs
Show me the MONEY!!
Posted by: SKYHN
If wrestling was about money, then Vince McMahon wouldnt have bought ECW and WCW instead of letting them go bankrupt.
Posted by: Cheese
you're telling me Vince McMahon didn't buy the WCW and ECW as investments? He saw the opportunity to gain 100% of the mainstream marketshare and he went for it. If there's anyone to blame for the detriment in wrestling over the past years, its Vince McMahon.
Remember the days when the WCW got really big cuz they bought all the big WWF stars? Yea, that was an exciting time in wrestling because the WWF had to go back to what they used to do and promote new and young talent as well as write interesting storylines. They eventually regained the audience and the WCW failed because people were tired of the NWO and the same crap every night. Now that Vinny has no competition, wrestling is boring to me once again. I don't wanna see the NWO anymore, they're just tired old bastards.
Posted by: SKYHN
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you're telling me Vince McMahon didn't buy the WCW and ECW as investments?
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Thats exactly what im saying. He bought it for 2 reasons: To finnaly have WCW vs WWF. Fans have been wanting that for years. And the other reason is because WCW and ECW had talent that would bring new light to the WWF. The WWF took guys like Booker T and Gregory Helms(The Hurricane) and put them where they were supposed to be.
Had the WWF not bought WCW and ECW, all the greats from them would be out of work or working in independent wrestling organizations. I would be pretty sad to see someone like Rob Van Dam working a show in a high school gym instead of fighting the Undertaker for the hardcore championship.
WCW has only bought out 4 stars from the WWF: Hall, Nash, Luger and Bret Hart. Hogan and Flair both left the WWF on their own. Jeff Jarrett was fired for being an a$$hole.
McMahon was a billionaire BEFORE he bought both of those companies.
Posted by: AK47
dude, dont play dumb. its so obviously for the money.
why would vince want wwf vs. wcw- to get lots of people interested. lots of people = lots of money.
yes, vince was a bilionare before he got wcw, but that makes him what now? an even higher billionaire with even more power. people like money and power. him buying the wcw was a good buisness decision. also, it got to let him look more powerfull than ted turner- someone he hates alot.
Posted by: Spider
How can they call them undisputed champions when there is a dispute over the championship twice a week?
Posted by: Fenix2004
Reality TV is getting really old and they are overdoing it... kind of like the tony hawk games
Posted by: Darky!
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Thats exactly what im saying. He bought it for 2 reasons: To finnaly have WCW vs WWF. Fans have been wanting that for years. And the other reason is because WCW and ECW had talent that would bring new light to the WWF. The WWF took guys like Booker T and Gregory Helms(The Hurricane) and put them where they were supposed to be.
Had the WWF not bought WCW and ECW, all the greats from them would be out of work or working in independent wrestling organizations. I would be pretty sad to see someone like Rob Van Dam working a show in a high school gym instead of fighting the Undertaker for the hardcore championship.
WCW has only bought out 4 stars from the WWF: Hall, Nash, Luger and Bret Hart. Hogan and Flair both left the WWF on their own. Jeff Jarrett was fired for being an a$$hole.
McMahon was a billionaire BEFORE he bought both of those companies.
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Dude. It was for the money. Don't act like I don't know what I'm talking about. He bought out his competition. Now hes going to make MORE money because guess what? Theres no competition to steal the crowd.
He didn't do it for the fans. He didn't do it for the sport. Thats all total BS. He did it because he wants MORE money then he has now (Not to mention it was a very sound bussiness descision). Plain and simple.
Posted by: Muggs
Yes SKYHN, he bought them to watch some guys in tights fake wrestle even more. If it was just for WWF vs WCW whats with ECW and why the hell does he still have most of them wrestling, in some cases as teams.
Posted by: AK47
he has ecw too.
Posted by: SKYHN
He did not buy a sucessful company. WCW was 3 days from bankruptcy when he bought it. Ted Turner was tired of WCW, it was losing too much money, the rattings were total crap and he was going to shut it down. Then when Vince found out about this, he decided to buy them. So you cant say he bought WCW for 100% of the audience, because he would have gotten 100% of the audience when they went bankrupt.
Paul Haymen owned ECW and he asked vince to help him out. Vince let some of the WWF guys like Tazz go over to ECW and have matches with ECW guys, which was the first time that 2 guys from 2 different federations had a match against each other. But they still werent making it so Paul Haymen shutdown ECW Television shows and just started doing house shows. Eventually they couldnt even handle that so Paul Haymen asked Mr. McMahon to do him a personal favor and buy ECW.
The WCW/ECW invasion did not even give the WWF higher rattings, in some cases smackdown rattings dropped. Many of the guys that came over from WCW were fired, such as Jeff Jarret. Others were sent to OVW the WWF's "Minor League" as its been called. Same with ECW.
And if you didnt know, Scott Hall, Hogan and Nash were not aquired in the WCW/ECW purchase. Hall was fired from WCW a year ago because he had a drinking problem, which is now gone. Hogan left WCW 2 years ago with a knee injury that is fixed now and Nash had a contract with Time Warner that didnt run out til January 2002, so he couldnt do anything because they wouldnt let him out of his contract.
The WWF had to renew all contracts with ECW and WCW guys after the pay per view where the big 12man match took place. Many guys were sent to OVW, some were released from the WWF and others were signed with the WWF.
Is WCW and ECW talked about now in the WWF? No. The Invasion angle was used and its over. Its back to regular WWF now.
Go read the WWFE reports and show me that they made more money durring the WCW and ECW invasion.
That thing about The Rock VS HHH was just an example. They call it the undisputed championship now because you get both the WCW and WWF Heavyweight Championship.
Posted by: Spider
But it is disputed.
Posted by: SKYHN
Well thats what they decided to call it. Nothing I can do about it.
There are so many Wrestling World championships, this takes the 2 biggest and puts them together. For years everyone wanted to see the WCW champion VS the WWF Champion for one UNDISPUTED champion. That finnaly happened so now whoever holds the two titles is the UNDISPUTED champion. If someone challenges the UNDISPUTED champion, then they can become the UNDISPUTED champion.
Its disputed over who is the champion, but its not disputed over what they are the champion of.
Posted by: Spider
Right.
They are not undisputed.
Posted by: Muggs
but who's to say there isnt some trailer trash fatty out there in texas that could fake whop the rock's ass?
shouldnt he get to try to be the champion just so he gets his fair shot?
Posted by: SKYHN
I dont know, should you?
You dont just show up and get a title shot. You have matches with others first. Chris Jericho is the current Champion, hes been in wrestling for over 10 years. Should some guy just come in brand new and Jericho lays down on the mat for the guy to pin him? No.
You guys all have pretty much made it clear that you dont like wrestling, yet you are critizing that they are doing things wrong, like you know a better way.
Posted by: Muggs
What if the guy has been wrestling in his backyard like on those movies
and whos Vince to say who the champ of the world is what about them mexican and asian leagues?
Posted by: SKYHN
Wrestling are Federations, not leagues.
WCW and WWF are WORLDWIDE. WWF has a month long Japan tour going on right now. NJPW AKA New Japan Pro Wrestling is known only in Japan. Luchadore federations in Mexico are known only in Mexico.
Posted by: Muggs
i watch the luchadore wrestling
least that stuff take some skill
Posted by: SKYHN
So now your saying you do watch wrestling...
All wrestling is the same. The Difference with WWF is that they have storylines.
Rob Van Dam, Shawn Michaels, Scotty 2 Hotty, Jericho and dozens of other WWF superstars are all trained in Luchadore style wrestling. 5 Star, Moonsault, Tornado DDT, Huricanrana...those are all Luchadore style wrestling moves. Dragon Sleeper, Japanese Suplex, Tiger Suplex, Tarantula...All japanese wrestling moves. All those moves are used by WWF Wrestlers. So you admit they have skill...
Posted by: AK47
Muggs, quit trying to continue a pointless argument.
Posted by: Null Actor
I believe this argument has gone circular.
So for the good of the board, and for all our sanity, I am closing it.
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