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Senate mulling anti-copying devices
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Posted by: Tweaker
The Senate Commerce Committee is hearing a bill today that promises to make the future of computing very bleak. This bill is the one that was rumored a while back; it calls for all computer manufacturers to include a government-approved technology inside all new computers and devices to prevent piracy. Originally set for hearing last October, consumer protests caused the Committee to postpone the hearing.
The bill, sponsored by Sens. Fritz Hollings, D-S.C., and Ted Stevens, R-Alaska, has the backing of some in the recording and movie industries, which are striving to deter digital pirates through anti-copying technology and lawsuits as well as by offering legal alternatives for online music via subscription services. Some hardware manufacturers, such as IBM and Intel, also have been working to build digital rights management technology into future products.
Many advocacy and consumer groups, however, oppose the draft bill, saying it gives the government too much control over technology that is just starting to appear in devices. Senate hearings had been scheduled for last October but were postponed after much public opposition to the proposed legislation.
Source: ZDNet News
Posted by: Asmodai
*grumbles*
All I want to respond with is this...
From Robert Heinlein's first story Life-Line:
"There has grown up in the minds of certain groups in this country the notion that because a man or corporation has made a profit out of the public for a number of years, the government and the courts are charged with the duty of guaranteeing such profit in the future, even in the face of changing circumstances and contrary to public interest. This strange doctrine is not supported by statute or common law. Neither individuals nor corporations have any right to come into court and ask that the clock of history be stopped, or turned back."
Get used to capitalism, RIAA!
Posted by: Gunslinger
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Originally posted by Asmodai
Get used to capitalism, RIAA!
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Here here!
Posted by: iTaL
This will never go through cause knowoone will buy the computers
Posted by: Null Actor
The recording industry is an obsolete, archaic, and useless industry.
Do we even need it anymore? The answer is no.
I was thinking about 'piracy' of music nowadays, when I inadvertently justified music piracy.
It's a relatively well known fact that few artists ever make lots of money off their albums. They make the money by touring. Why? Because the recording industry keeps almost everything. Many well known bands aren't rich. Some of them barely make ends meet.
It is also a fact that the only reason the record industry existed was to make sure that we, the consumer, have a method of recieving that music.
But do we need them anymore?
Do we need an industry that does nothing but rob from the artist, the consumer, and everything in between?
Look at it this way: If everyone on earth all of a sudden quit buying music cds in stores, and only traded MP3s of the bands they loved, would music cease to exist?
No it would not.
The recording industry would go under... but they aren't needed anymore anyway. An artist can control the distribution of his music easily by himself. In doing so his music becomes easily accessible to everyone on the planet, using the internet as a distribution medium. Not to mention that because of the pure inferiority of the recording industry, it is nearly impossible for me to buy cds of some of my favorite bands! Many of them are from europe, and a lot of european music is never released in north america to begin with. Because of the recording industry, music by bands from my own country must be imported from europe, which the recording industry believes is the only place it can make money.
Controlling the distribution is NOT possible. This is a thing of the past. It is impossible to do so in any reasonable fashion, and therefor it cannot happen. How could it possibly? If there were a way, it would have happened by now. The fact that they can only come up with stupid 'blackbox' solutions proves it. Even these blackbox solutions cannot stop the flow of information.
So what is left? Embrace it.
Musicians should cast off the recording industry! Record their own songs and make webpages! Allow free downloads of all their music! Allow anyone and everyone to play the music however, whenever, wherever they wish! No more hoping for your music to be heard by the 'right' corporate exec! Freedom of information means that if it's good, everyone will hear it!
Musicians can continue to perform live for income, and they can even offer physical media for the fans who would choose to purchase their music. They would make more money this way, since they wouldn't have the recording industry stealing all the money between the store and their pockets. 90% profit.
To this end, I implore everyone to support their favorite bands. Go to concerts. Send them money if it's possible. Buy CDs from their own websites.
But do not buy from the recording industry. If a cd is on shelves, ignore it. Download the mp3s. But do not fail to support your band! Those concert tickets may be 30, 40, 60 dollars, but for the money you save, it is worth it! That is how they make their money anyways. Buy the CD if it is the only way of supporting your favorite artists.
When the bands start putting up pages where you can buy their music, do it! Support the change!
It can only make the musical world better for all of us.
<Note that this is my opinion and not necessarily the opinion of OTS.net>
Posted by: Null Actor
However, I would like to point out, that for my same reasoning, I cannot justify movie piracy.
Unlike the recording industry, the movie industry is needed.
What would happen if no one paid for their movies?
Hollywood would collapse upon itself and we'd have no more movies.
Posted by: iTaL
I like your views on that nova 
I have no problem with movies cause I have blockbuster but there is no blockbuster for music
there should be !!! But there isint
And soon like you said artist will sell there music with there own power and knowledge from friends
Makeing the world a better place
Also I will never pirate a console game cause I cant rent befor I buy
But pc games there is no option which sucks and they dont allow you to take the game back if it sucks
Posted by: Null Actor
Buy from electronics boutique. They accept software returns.
Posted by: Heathen
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Buy from electronics boutique. They accept software returns
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Well.... you get a store credit. But its better than any other software retailer...
... and you can't blame them. I wouldn't allow software returns either. You are just leaving the door open to people burning the game.... getting a NO CD crack from the net.... and then returning it.
As I have stated before here... I hate pirates and not the Long John Silver kind before anyone jumps in there its killing the whole industry.
Use you CDRW... but use it properly. Backup info or download mp3's from MP3.com its legal there becuase the artist post the songs.
Posted by: tkron
Last time I checked the farmers gross share of a loaf of bread is about 6 cents, up from the 3 cents they made back in the 1950s. I think their net profit from a loaf of bread is about a quarter of a cent, if that. I wonder who is making all the profit wink wink.
I think the same can be said about most farm products.
Posted by: TotalRecall
Nova is so right. Did anyone hear that guy on the Grammy's the other night? I do not know his name, nor do I care..but, he made a little speech on digital piracy.
The speech included the statement that this "illegal ripping and burning of cds" crushes the dreams of bands and artists. Dreams of what, greed? Bah...I bet that guy worked for the record industry.
Down with the record companies!
Posted by: iTaL
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Originally posted by shaggy735
Well.... you get a store credit. But its better than any other software retailer...
... and you can't blame them. I wouldn't allow software returns either. You are just leaving the door open to people burning the game.... getting a NO CD crack from the net.... and then returning it.
As I have stated before here... I hate pirates and not the Long John Silver kind before anyone jumps in there its killing the whole industry.
Use you CDRW... but use it properly. Backup info or download mp3's from MP3.com its legal there becuase the artist post the songs.
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get used to it
Cause as long as 3d studio max cost 3,000 dollars instead of 50 im gonna get the cheap net way
And also the pc games
Altho I buy the real game I like
return to castle wolfnestien
Posted by: tkron
According to a story in tomorrows Sunday Chicago Sun-Times here is the breakdown of where the typical $17.00 CDs cost goes
Retailer 5.00 or 29.4%
Record Label 4.92 or 28.9%
Distributer 2.40 or 14.1%
Giveaways 1.80 or 10.6%
sub total of above 14.12 or 82.0%
Duplication/production costs 1.10 or 6.5%
Artist royality 0.83 or 4.9%
Songwriter License 0.60 or 3.5 %
Producer Royalty 0.27 or 1.6%
Musicians Union 0.08 or 0.5%
Sub total of 4 lines above 1.78 or 10.5%
Sun Times source is "Confesions of a record Producer" published by Backbeat Books written by Moses Avalon
Posted by: Null Actor
What you have to remember though is a large chunk of those 'artist royalties' tend to go to the record label, for artist debt incurred in the process.
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Dammit, I just went out and bought 4 cds I already had mp3s of.
Some habits are hard to break.
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