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This will probably get me banned, but...
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Posted by: Erekose
Simple thing, really. If two members are bantering back and forth (unless it is flagrantly abusive) I see no fault. If one party takes offense I'm pretty sure they know the appropriate actions to take. If not I'm sure some one would direct them. If someone is tired of a particular thread popping up it's quite a simple thing to just ignore it, move on to the next item of interest. Being a forum titled 'Rants and Raves' I'd expect to see some venting of steam, and even the building up of a good head. So be it. Until a moderator is compelled to step in (be it by the members, good taste, or in keeping with the forums purpose) there really is no need. It's not my place to tell anyone how to do their job, but I am just utilising the forum for its purpose. To refer to it as a 'shitfest' and instruct us to 'grow up' is, I feel, slightly out of bounds in this case. No harm was coming from us acting like fools, poking fun at each other. We have to behave like adults most every place else and for some this is the one place where they can engage in some simple, mindless stupidity. Now to be direct, precise, and to act like an ass. Nova that was just wrong. Warn me, ban me, sick a tribe of pygmies on me, whatever. I've said my piece. Hell I'll even include my email address if you want to flame me. Honk9419@hotmail.com
Posted by: Spider
Jedi Olympics, hah, I'm a riot.
Posted by: Ion Silverbolt
The main reason the thread was closed was because it went way off topic. There was nothing to be gained by leaving the thread open since everyone seemed to not care about the thread topic anymore and it was turning into pointless bickering.
Normally it would have been left open regardless, but it just got out of hand so it was better for everyone to close it. I support Nova's decision.
Posted by: Erekose
okay well thats a reason, i guess. wasnt the one given, but whatever. just make sure you know that's why he closed it before you agree with that as a decision is all. and so it's clear now, this topic's point is to promote the pointless bickering that has no other appropriate place. jedi olympics, lessons about pinatas, whatever.
Posted by: Ion Silverbolt
You have every right to start a bickering thread. The last thread was supposed to be dealing with Olympic issues. Which why it got closed when it turned into something else.
Posted by: Erekose
hmm seems to me the content of the thread dictates what it is about. if bickering is what it became, then bickering is what it is about.
Posted by: Ion Silverbolt
Nope. Some off topic comments are tolorated but when it gets off 2 pages worth, then it's stupid to keep it open. Especially if the topic starter wants it closed.
It's not like you can't start your own thread or anything.
Posted by: Canis Lupus
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Originally posted by Erekose
hmm seems to me the content of the thread dictates what it is about. if bickering is what it became, then bickering is what it is about.
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So if I create a thread entitled, say, "Donations to the homeless children in Afghanistan," with the purpose of raising a call to action for generosity, and a person (or two) comes along and says Afghanistan does not deserve pity, hence their children should just starve to death, does that mean that thread automatically becomes an Afghanistan children bashing thread?
The content does NOT dictate what the thread is about, the title does. Along the way, it may get off-topic, but that's something entirely different... when someone sees a topic entitled "olympics" they expect something related to olympics... that's just common sense, y'see...
Posted by: Spider
First Annual Jedi Olympics, tomorrow night!!
You're all going to be one with the force after I'm done with you.
AhAHAHahHAHA!!!
But first I must sleep.
Posted by: Erekose
the topic starter wants it closed? hmm pretty sure i saw eot telling you to buy a beer. ill go check again though... yep post #56. she did ask in post #41 that it be deleted, but you told her it could not be 'Just because the majority despises this thread now doesn't mean people who are interested in it can't post in it. The thread stays. And anyone can post here as long as they aren't breaking any forum rules.' I was still interested in posting, spider appears to be, and i'm pretty certain others with more sense to keep their mouths shut are to. still agree with nova?
Posted by: Erekose
canis aye i do see how one would expect to find something relating to sports in a topic named such, and there was, about 30 posts or so. after which it took loops, twists, and turns in content. does that make it about afghanistan bashing, dunno never got that far. i think it fair to let a topic progess as it may, off topic is not objectionable. if someone followed the topic the entire length and was still looking for olympic related material, theyd know not to look there anymore.
Posted by: Canis Lupus
You might want to check the guidelines for R&R located on top of the topic list:
http://209.51.151.200/forums/showth...=&threadid=2609
Read number 7... Moderators reserve the right to close or delete a thread as they see fit...
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Originally posted by Erekose
i think it fair to let a topic progess as it may, off topic is not objectionable.
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That's entirely up to the moderators...
Posted by: Erekose
well its pretty clear to me that this is going nowhere. just thought id say my piece. didnt think it was handled properly and didnt appreciate the insults coupled with no opprotunity to reply, hence this thread. for someone to come in and shutdown a harmless topic that had moderator involvement, even moderator participation, and to go so far as to call it a 'shit fest' and suggest we grow up frankly pissed me off
Posted by: Canis Lupus
You're always entitled to your own opinion, and we thank you for them...
Posted by: Erekose
... but they count for nothing, so shut up? heh, i know a brush off when i see one. no matter, was pointless to try and change anyones mind.
Posted by: Canis Lupus
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Originally posted by Erekose
... but they count for nothing, so shut up? heh, i know a brush off when i see one. no matter, was pointless to try and change anyones mind.
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It's not good to put words in someone's mouth ... was giving the issue closure, so don't spoil it...
Posted by: Erekose
spoil what? the whole issue was sour to start with. ive gotten the brush off, i said so. i havent even seen a post about this from nova yet. ive had ion tell me he agrees with the decision, and ive had you tell me to read the guidlines stating that any post can be closed at anytime, but ive yet to see even a 'shutup you bother me' from the one who closed it. and that dear friend is even worse than being brushed off
Posted by: Canis Lupus
Since you're obviously not willing to let the issue go and move on with your life, I say good luck, and no more comments from me on this issue...
Posted by: Ion Silverbolt
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Originally posted by Erekose
spoil what? the whole issue was sour to start with. ive gotten the brush off, i said so. i havent even seen a post about this from nova yet. ive had ion tell me he agrees with the decision, and ive had you tell me to read the guidlines stating that any post can be closed at anytime, but ive yet to see even a 'shutup you bother me' from the one who closed it. and that dear friend is even worse than being brushed off
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Well you weren't directly bothering anyone until you started THIS topic. And it's clear you're just trying to start trouble. So i'm going to close this topic as well.
If you want to take this up further, use private messaging instead of cluttering the boards.
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