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a question of conventional memory
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Posted by: Storm_Shot
Hi guys, I'm trying to get an old game (Betrayal at Krondor) to run on my win98 Compaq. Whenever I try to run the game, it tells me I dont have enough conventional memory. I checked and its right, I dont. So I have two questions. 1. How do I free up some conventional memory? 2. Why the hell did this game work on my old win95 gateway, but not on my newer comp?  Any help would be really appreciated. 
Posted by: Kdr Kane
Without having seen the game, I would recommend that you check out this site.
Be sure to check that you have all of the updates and patches.
Posted by: Storm_Shot
Thanks Kane, that's a great resource however, I can't seem to get the patch to work, and it still says I need more conventional memory, even when I use the boot-disk
Posted by: Outlaw
What are the contents of the config.sys and autoexec.bat files on that bootdisk?
Posted by: Storm_Shot
hmmm... the disk doesn't seem to have a config.sys file. Is that supposed to be put in when I make it? Or is there somewhere I'm supposed to copy that from?
Posted by: Outlaw
Well I don't know how that site told you to make a bootdisk, but if it has no config.sys then you won't have much conventional memory either.
The bootdisk should have himem.sys and emm386.exe on it (you can find those in your windows dir).
The config.sys should look something like this:
dos=high,umb
device=a:\himem.sys
device=a:\emm386.exe noems
I don't know if you need any sound or cdrom drivers for that game, if you do then you got to load those too.
Posted by: Null Actor
Putting things in config.sys and autoexec.bat can cause problems with windows; it is NOT recommended that you change them.
Posted by: Outlaw
I'm talking about a bootdisk, not the config.sys on c:\
Posted by: Storm_Shot
ok, thx guys, I'll try that
Posted by: Bosk of PortKar
gads, does this bring back memories.
putting things into config.sys and autoexec.bat *can* cause problems, but if you know what you're doing, it's smiple.
a boot floppy isn't a bad way to go tho.
if you open a dos window and type in: mem /c
and post the output here, I'm sure I could free up a buncha mem for ya.
gotta wake up some retired brain cells for this one. but used to do this for a living. 624k free was possible with qemm.
Posted by: Storm_Shot
Bosk, I would, but currently my computer is in Georgia and I'm in Maine  I posted that a few days before I left, and now I'm posting from a computer at the public library because I don't have the internet at home here
Oh well, after summer's up and I'm back down there (and if I still have the same comp) I'll repost this. Thanks again for all your help guys.
hmmm... they need to make crosseyed smileys and crying ones (if they had they I would have put those in instead above )
Posted by: Grimlock
Does the game have instructions on how much memory and stuff you need in the manual? For xwing, it tells you how to make the bootdisk in dos so it will run correctly. If you want to make a bare config.sys and autoexec files on the floppy you can do this in DOS.
I'll post it when I get home from work and give you better details.
Posted by: Grimlock
To creaet a bare Autoexec.bat files ofr a boot disk go to a: prompt and type
copy con autoexec.bat <enter>
prompt=$p$g <enter>
path=c:\;c:\dos <enter>
^Z <enter> (or hit f6 key and enter)
to create a basic config.sys files try this at a: prompt
copy con config.sys <enter>
files=20 <enter>
buffer=20 <enter>
device=c:\windows\emm386.exe RAM MIN=(enter how much ram you want to devote) <enter>
^Z <enter> (or hit f6 and enter)
that should work.
you can jimmy with the files and buffer sections to get the desired values, just make sure you do it on the a: prompt.
Posted by: Storm_Shot
thnx again to everyone, and I'll try this stuff when I get back to Savannah
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