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Posted by: MK
Yo all  Yes..I am making my once a year arrival. I have been really busy lately. Graduated from high school, got a girlfriend, college starts in 2 months, been working, parents have been gone for 16 days..it's great. Turned 18 last month also. I was reading through some of my PM's and damn they aren't too great. Sorry to cause all that havoc back in the day when I was an immature little "asshat", as Spider would say..  I would really like to keep in touch with a lot of you..but needless to say, I won't be visiting OTS much more then I do now(which is rarely ever) or TG...I don't post at either. I frequent a board now..called WannaBeBigForums....Great site...I am really into lifting now and it's been a great addition to my life. If any of you would like to keep in touch with me, especially since I no longer have ICQ...drop me a line on AIM, MSN or email. I'd appreciate it
AIM- heathj99
MSN- heathjones3@hotmail.com
Email- heathjones3@hotmail.com
See ya later! Hope things are going well. Laggy...site looks great like always.
Posted by: AK47
Wannabebigforums. LOL!
Posted by: Spider
Yo!
I added you to my AIM this morning after I got your PM.
Posted by: Canis Lupus
I have also bookmarked the Wannabebig forums coz I'm trying to get into lifting... haven't posted there yet, tho - just trying to read some of the anecdotes and tips on the right diet and stimulants
Posted by: redwench
ooooooo, a buff laggy. that would be something to see......
Posted by: Ion Silverbolt
One thing that's cool about eating is, if you eat the same amount of food for the same calories in one day, you will burn a lot more calories by basically grazing all day. Like 5-6 mini-meals. Whenver there is a constant supply of food in the stomach, the bodies metabolism doesn't slow down because it doesn't shift into survival mode. Which is basically the way we stay alive when we go hungry. It's also why starvation diets always fail.
The body also absorbs nutrients and protien better that way as well. It's a lot like a funnel. Pouring too much oil in at once just ends up spilling some of it out. It doesn't get used.
Posted by: Shalome
It has to do with insulin levels.
Posted by: redwench
indeed it does. a constant insulin level is much better for you than spikes.
anyway, be careful with forums laggy, since anyone can post any hairbrained idea. and a lot of lifters believe in silly myths, that in some cases can be injurious to your health.
before you take any supplements other than protein, do some serious research first. there are a few that are dangerous in high doses, or in some people. make sure you have no contraindications before taking them, and that the dosage is reasonable.
muscle media used to be a good lifting mag, it sucks the last time i read it. but they do reference thier articles heavily from scientific journals, so as a source for real info, its good. its just unreadable 
Posted by: Canis Lupus
Hehe, I only scan the forums for the most popular diet routines as well as the more reliable supplements they use ...
As for the workout routines and any other things, I ask Ion
Posted by: Fenix2004
I took a look at your site MK and it looks like a cool place. I tried to join now, but it said my parent has to fill out this form and fax it to the admin. Annoying....
Posted by: Lord_Buttplug
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Originally posted by Ion Silverbolt
It's also why starvation diets always fail.
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They don't always fail. You just have to workout hard during the time of the starvation.
Posted by: Shalome
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Posted by: Shalome
I like the term "asshat."
Posted by: MK
I know tons about diets and workout routines now. What do you think I've been doing the last two years? My name on there is heathj. IM me or something Laggy if you want help..or just ask Ion
Posted by: redwench
well, starvation diets do work. if you dont eat, you will lose weight youll permanently damage your heart or kill yourself, but hey, youll be thin. and thats what life is all about isnt it?
Posted by: TheeMon
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Originally posted by redwench
before you take any supplements other than protein, do some serious research first. there are a few that are dangerous in high doses, or in some people. make sure you have no contraindications before taking them, and that the dosage is reasonable.
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yeah red serious danger in high doses try stackerd2 (sp?) lol and the part about certain people, i think that is just for peite people... allso on a diff note any energy pill will help ya too
Posted by: MK
Starvation diets are dumb. First of all, you lose weight. Much of which is muscle, and some fat. You will look like a little anarexic twig, and you have zero energy. Also, most people don't last long on them, cause you have no energy and are hungry all the time. Then you end up pigging out cause you're so hungry, wasting all that dieting, which was bad for your body in the first place anyway. So it's a double whammy for your body. Best way is just to lower calories, while keeping protein fairly high. Just as long as you are burning more calories per day then you are consuming, you will lose weight. The correct way...
Posted by: Shalome
Yeah.
I mean, in high school, I lost 32 pounds in just over a month on the "2 cans of Mt. Dew, lots of coffee, and caffeine pills" diet -- along with 2 to 3 hours of exercise a day. Got down to 103 pounds for senior prom.
Kept it off too, until I re-learned how to eat about halfway through college.
It's a great method of weight control, as long as you don't mind dizzy spells, fainting, random heart rate fluctuations, constantly being sick, being exhausted all the time but unable to sleep, getting so tired from walking across campus that you can't focus once you get to class, bruising every time you bump into something...
Yeah, if you don't mind stuff like that, then go for the starvation diets. They certainly work.
Posted by: TheeMon
shal, they make sleeping pills you know
Posted by: MK
Thee...anarexia is a disease. Shal, sorry to hear about your misfortune of doing that starvation diet. You only weighed 135 in the first place, which isn't much at all. I take it you are much smarter now and won't do it again
Posted by: Shalome
Older, smarter, and much healthier, thank you very much.
And for a 5'5" girl, 135 was not a lot. 103 was pretty close to skeletal.
Posted by: MK
Good to know Don't let yourself fall into that rut again, for your own well being
Posted by: Ion Silverbolt
The safe amount of weight to lose per week is around 2 pounds unless you're grossly way over your target weight in fat. Losing any more per week usually indicates you're cutting too many calories.
A cool thing about just starting weights is some people actually gain weight yet appear slimmer. Which is gret because they lost fat and gained muscle both.
People who starve themselves usually end up looking funny. Usually like a mini-fat person. Either that or their ribs start showing. ack!!1 Muscular shape plays a big role in appearing slim.
Posted by: MK
Just like when gaining weight. Most amount of muscle you can gain in a week is 1-2 pounds. Any more and fat will come with it. Fat=evil. Muscular shape is very important in looking slim. You'll look huge with a 50" chest and a 32" waist.
Posted by: AK47
Earlier tonight, I ate a whole pizza. Chased it down with at least 3 gallons of water.
after that, I fell asleep on the dining room floor in my underwear. Nobody seemed to notice.
Posted by: Ion Silverbolt
It kind of sucks though losing a lot of weight. My 30 waste jeans are fitting loose now. 4 months ago I was snug in a 32 Waste.
It sucks to have to buy new jeans, but once I put on some of Lenny Lane's shiney Ab polish™, it's all worth it.
Posted by: Ion Silverbolt
lol AK. TMI.
Posted by: Tweaker
Don't forget your cardio, I use to lift 2 to 3 hrs a day, and at first all I did was lift. Then I started mixing the two and got better results. It's been a while I need to get back into it again.
Posted by: redwench
god, you guys are making me want to go to a gym again. is this going to be a group thang?
Posted by: Ion Silverbolt
Cardio is great for supplementing weight training for losing weight. However, weight training is more effective keeping the fat off since muscle burns calories at rest. So you can play Tetris Worlds and Halo on your X box and still burn more calories than the average Joe.
You can come to the YMCA here in Danville Red. You'll have to leave the treehouse though.
Posted by: redwench
leaving my tree to go to the store is hard enough
i might manage to make it to the local Y tho.
*hunts for her kava*
Posted by: Null Actor
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Originally posted by AK47
Earlier tonight, I ate a whole pizza. Chased it down with at least 3 gallons of water.
after that, I fell asleep on the dining room floor in my underwear. Nobody seemed to notice.
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HAHAHAHHAHAHAHA
Holy shit, that's the funniest thing I've read on this board in ages. Good job!
Posted by: Tweaker
This is true Ion but aerobic exercise is a key part of every serious bodybuilders routine. Not only is it a necessary step towards fat burning, but it also enhances the quality of weight training sessions. A strong heart and a good set of lungs will allow you to work harder in the gym. There's no excuse for not doing cardio work.
The best time to burn fat is in the morning before breakfast. A 20 to 40 minute session of moderate aerobic exercise will do wonders for your waistline if performed on a regular basis.
Note that brutally intense cardio work is no more beneficial in fat burning endeavours than is a more moderate pace. If you send your body into oxygen debt, it is no longer burning fat as efficiently as it could.
The importance of aerobic exercise can not be understated. In addition to being the key weapon against fat, it also helps with your weight training sessions. A good bodybuilding routine does not ignore the importance of aerobic exercise. A healthy and strong cardio- vasucular system helps you push your body through the weight workouts in the gym.
Performing moderately intense cardio work three to five times per week for 20 to 40 minutes, you can speed up your metabolism, burn excess fat and perform to your maximum potential during your weight workouts. It's a commitment that definitely pays off.
Posted by: redwench
actually, the lower the intensity, the higher the % of calories burned is fat. a nice walk will have the same cardiovascular benefits as a run, but more fat will be burned and fewer carbs now if they only downgraded that to a stroll......
Posted by: MK
Cardio is not THAT important. Muscle is the most important factor in burning fat. The more muscle you have, the more fat you burn. More muslce = higher metabolism. You can still lose weight without cardio. But I still do cardio...
Posted by: Fenix2004
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Originally posted by MK
Starvation diets are dumb. First of all, you lose weight. Much of which is muscle, and some fat. You will look like a little anorexia twig, and you have zero energy. Also, most people don't last long on them, cause you have no energy and are hungry all the time. Then you end up pigging out cause you're so hungry, wasting all that dieting, which was bad for your body in the first place anyway. So it's a double whammy for your body. Best way is just to lower calories, while keeping protein fairly high. Just as long as you are burning more calories per day then you are consuming, you will lose weight. The correct way...
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Several girls in my school starve themselves for the whole week and then find themselves eating uncontrollably during the weekend. It is really bad.. I fear they will develop anorexia soon. I found my lab partner in chemistry class was taking stacker 2 pills during class and drinking water with lemon juice in it to lose weight. Her goal was to become 110 pounds. Don't know what she weighs now.
Posted by: Spider
Probably 115.
I wonder if I can copy-right or trademark the word, "asshat"
..or something.
Posted by: MK
I take hydroxycut, creatine, protein and l-glutamine...but I'm in no way anarexic Hydroxycut is a fat burner.
Posted by: Ion Silverbolt
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Originally posted by Tweaker
This is true Ion but aerobic exercise is a key part of every serious bodybuilders routine. Not only is it a necessary step towards fat burning, but it also enhances the quality of weight training sessions. A strong heart and a good set of lungs will allow you to work harder in the gym. There's no excuse for not doing cardio work.
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It's definately important, but if you had to choose between the two, weight training is better. It's like this guy at work that walks 5 miles a day. He's still bigger than my house. Some weight training would work wonders for him.
Anyway, I do cardio 3-5 times a week for about 40 minutes at a session. Swimming owns every cardio exercise out there short of maybe running from the cops. Not only does it use nearly every muscle in the body and burn the most calories, it has the added effect of helping muscle tone since water adds a bit of resistence. Swimmers always tend to have nice cuts even when they never touch a weight.
And I wouldn't touch fat burning products until maybe you hit a plateau and are comfortible with taking them. Even though you don't need a prescription, they're still drugs and need to be respected as such.
Posted by: Gunslinger
Whoa. Mighty King! Long time no see.
Posted by: Tweaker
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Originally posted by MK
Cardio is not THAT important. Muscle is the most important factor in burning fat. The more muscle you have, the more fat you burn. More muslce = higher metabolism. You can still lose weight without cardio. But I still do cardio...
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That all depends on what you want to achieve, if your not looking for conditioning then just do the weights! If you want to be fit as well as buffed then both are required. If fat burning is all your after then weights and a descent diet will do the trick, but doing both weights and cardio will greatly increases the fat burning process, not to mention a much better cut body, just my opinion based on my experiences.
Posted by: Ghetto Blasta
I have this great weightloss technique. It involves eating an assload of toasted bagels with assorted toppings, juicy juice (the best juice around dontchaknow), assorted fruits, mostly grapes, losts of cheese and crackers, little to no soda (it gives you gas  ), occasionaly trips to your local 711 via skates (a requirement of using skates is to do atleast a 180 anywhere you can get some air), walking, or occasionally car (if one is available) to aquire assorted chips, candy with a waxy consistency, and sObe. I also recommend eating a tasty breakfast cereal in the mornings when the bagels are gone. Also, try to eat pizza with up to 2 toppings atleast once a week for dinner.* A very comfertable chair or sofa is very important, along with a TV with VCR/DVD and/or a console, or a decent computer with games such as any Civ game, Fallout 1 or 2, an MMORPG, or any thing else that can hold your attention for a long period of time. When you have all the listed necesities, sit yourself down and stay there unless you require substanence, a small amount of natural light (not too much though, it could ruin the diet), to take a trip to 711, to sleep (though not necessary to get up to do that), or if nature calls.
NOTE: For this plan to be successful, you must have a metabolism that goes at the speed of light.
* This is only recommended. It is possible for this to work if you eat whatever you damn well please.
Posted by: TheeMon
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Originally posted by Tweaker
a good set of lungs will allow you to work harder
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true so true...
Posted by: -EG-raynor
heheh ghetto ... thats my diet plan ... eat all i can cram into my mouth and let my body do the work
Posted by: MK
All I'm saying is you can be fit/slilm/ripped/cut without doing cardio. I do cardio. I was just adding another point in there It doesn't matter as long as calories in are less then calories out. But yes, cardio is good for conditioning and the such. But a good workout is just as effective for getting a good set of lungs or a heart that's in good condition, as cardio is.
Posted by: Tweaker
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Originally posted by MK
All I'm saying is you can be fit/slilm/ripped/cut without doing cardio. I do cardio. I was just adding another point in there It doesn't matter as long as calories in are less then calories out. But yes, cardio is good for conditioning and the such. But a good workout is just as effective for getting a good set of lungs or a heart that's in good condition, as cardio is.
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Well I guess we just disagree.
Posted by: Ion Silverbolt
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Originally posted by Tweaker
Well I guess we just disagree.
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Actually he's right to a point. There are routines where you go from one exercise and then jump to another to work a different muscle group without resting in between. Basically going through a cycle until all your muscle groups are worked.
It sucks though. Talk about an ass kicking. I'd rather separate the two..hehe
Posted by: redwench
heh, giant sets not only are exhausting, you cant work either aerobically or anaerobically anywhere near your potential. in other words, you end up with crappy muscle growth and crappy aerobic benefit. not to mention the possible injuries from throwing other people off the equipment before they are finished with it
Posted by: MK
aka. supersetting...
Posted by: Bobaroo
I just got back from the weight room. Did some lifting and running.
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