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Using Quake3 as a benchmark
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Posted by: SKYHN
Why do websites continue to use Quake3 as a benchmark in hardware reviews? That game is very old now. Why not use a newer game that uses the Q3 engine, such as RTCW? Or other games like GTA3 & Morrowind? Ive seen a few reviews recently that used Dungeon Siege and JK2, which was nice for a change.
Review after Review of vid cards and CPU's with those ancient Q3 benches. MADNESS I TELL YOU!
Posted by: Null Actor
Because shallow morons remained convinced that anything over 60FPS matters.
Posted by: taco_fox
Because Doom III isn't out?
You must realize, a lot computer nuts (especially FPS fans and overclockers) think of Carmack as a GOD. No, really. They refer to him as a god.
Posted by: Foogar
I think it's more because using the same graphics settings and alla that you can compare apples to apples with older tech and see just how much 'better' things are now...
Posted by: JANNA
personally i wish that carmack would just stop ruining FPS he had a hit once in the olde dayes but its over get over it all ready. yes carmack opened the door on the wide wide world of FPS but he has never had the vision to step through said door. games like BF1942 EQ AC DAOC have taken FPS to a level that carmack can only dream about. the thing that still stuns me about BF1942 is the scale of all the vehicles, buildings and terrain. so carmack a god?? only in his own mind.
Posted by: TotalRecall
Isn't BF1942 based on the Quake III engine?
Also, I don't believe he refers to himself as a god. Why are you outraged? Can you name anyone else who has had near his impact on first person shooting?
Mhmm.
Posted by: Canis Lupus
John Romero had a big impact on the FPS industry ... a big, fat, negative one, that is 
Posted by: SKYHN
Some new stuff about Doom 3 and the engine came out at Quake Con the other day:
Doom 3 will be capped at 60fps by the engine. Theres no lifting the cap, except if they decide to with a patch.
Quake 4 will use the Doom 3 Engine.
So Doom 3 wont really be a good benchmark for the next gen of cards. Even though all you need is 60fps. I found it funny on madonion that people were actually angry about it. One guy said that they better lift that cap because he wants to play higher thant 60 fps. If his hardware can handle 140fps, then he wants to play at 140fps
Posted by: taco_fox
What source did that come from? I haven't heard anything about it.
Posted by: SKYHN
The video interview from quakecon(or that Microsoft thing, cant remember which one exactly).
This was the quote:
"John has infact capped the framerate at 60FPS, so no matter what you don it won't play any faster than that. We really believe that a acceptable, fun play experience will be at 30FPS..."
Posted by: -EG-raynor
the pictures of doomIII, are those movie screenshots, or actual in game screenshots, if thats in game  im inpressed, i think that a 60fps cap for that game would be perfectly fine, just look at those graphics
Posted by: SKYHN
Its all in game. Quite nice, but we will have to wait and see on gameplay.
Release date has been set as 3/31 2003.
Posted by: Null Actor
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Originally posted by SKYHN
If his hardware can handle 140fps, then he wants to play at 140fps
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What is really funny, is the fact that too many FPS actually degrades image quality because of all the tearing.
Posted by: SKYHN
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Originally posted by Nova Z
What is really funny, is the fact that too many FPS actually degrades image quality because of all the tearing.
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I used to care about getting a really high framerate, but after playing a game at 90, 120 or higher framerates, the tearing was unbearable. I play with Vsnyc always on now, which keeps it at 100 or below(if I can even get that high), and when I can, cap the framerate at 60(Anyone know the console command for that in RTCW?).
Posted by: SKYHN
Ugh, here we go again...
http://tech-report.com/reviews/2002...um4-2.8/q3a.gif
Posted by: taco_fox
I don't see what the big problem is. What other game would you suggest that you can compare to earlier benchmarks that aren't compiled together like that?
The less you change the controlled variable, the better. When Doom III comes out, review sites will just shift all at the same time (I'm assuming).
And most review sites use other games to test pixel shaders and other advanced graphics, anyway.
Posted by: SKYHN
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Originally posted by the_radarblip
I don't see what the big problem is. What other game would you suggest that you can compare to earlier benchmarks that aren't compiled together like that?
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Its an absolutely useless benchmark. Say someone is in the market for a new vid card. They see a review of a GF2 MX. It runs Q3 at 135fps. They think "Wow, that card has power" so they go out and buy it. They load up Jedi Knight 2, only to find they get a choppy and very low framerate. "I thought this card had power?" "No Billy, you bought 2 year old technology, what a dumbass..."
I see that exact same scenario on madonion all the time. If they stopped using that, people wouln
Posted by: taco_fox
Quite frankly, if people base their purchases on one benchmark, then they deserve what they get. This is the reason most respectable sites use Q3 along with other benches and and article.
If people want to just skim past the words and look at the purty bar graphs, that's fine with me. Enjoy your GF4 MX.
Posted by: JANNA
if people base their buys on benchmarks then they deserve what they get *remembers all the money wasted on voodoo3 cards...*
Posted by: Outlaw
Voodoo3 rulez, that thing lasted almost forever 
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